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Old 01-27-2016, 05:08 PM
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My salesman (actually the guy who took over my guy, who just retired) called me the other day and wanted me to trade in my '12 Overland V6. Asked me to come in and see "the new technology", referring to the bigger touch screen.

I met this new guy and gave him my list of priorities:
  • Beautiful interior
  • highway ride quality (I drive over 30k miles/ year)
  • quite, smooth, so my lady can sleep during our weekend commute to the mountains

I test drove 3 vehicles:
1. Overland, V6. Seemed a bit heavy compared to my current, nearly identical vehicle. I drove it about 20 minutes. It seemed a little quieter than my current one but not by much. I like the 8 speed vs. my 5.
2. Overland diesel. I drove it just enough to let it warm up seeing if it would quiet down, and took a U-turn to get back to the dealer. Not smooth at all, sluggish off the line. Hated it.
3. Summit Hemi. I like the color of the leather (like my Saddle-Black). Don't like the wood as much (why stain it black so you see no grain?) Deathly quiet with the noise reduction system has me wanting it. Lighter steering than the V6 (?!). Disappointed with the acceleration- not the rocket ship that the Chrysler 300 is, at all.

"ax'd" him to write up my trade (96k miles) with a Summit V6. $31k out the door. I'm thinking about it.

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Re: Test drives today

Try the Summit again in Sport mode, you may be impressed at the difference.
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You could buy a new Laredo and keep your Overland for that kind of money.
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Re: Test drives today

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My salesman (actually the guy who took over my guy, who just retired) called me the other day and wanted me to trade in my '12 Overland V6. Asked me to come in and see "the new technology", referring to the bigger touch screen.

I met this new guy and gave him my list of priorities:
  • Beautiful interior
  • highway ride quality (I drive over 30k miles/ year)
  • quite, smooth, so my lady can sleep during our weekend commute to the mountains

I test drove 3 vehicles:
1. Overland, V6. Seemed a bit heavy compared to my current, nearly identical vehicle. I drove it about 20 minutes. It seemed a little quieter than my current one but not by much. I like the 8 speed vs. my 5.
2. Overland diesel. I drove it just enough to let it warm up seeing if it would quiet down, and took a U-turn to get back to the dealer. Not smooth at all, sluggish off the line. Hated it.
3. Summit Hemi. I like the color of the leather (like my Saddle-Black). Don't like the wood as much (why stain it black so you see no grain?) Deathly quiet with the noise reduction system has me wanting it. Lighter steering than the V6 (?!). Disappointed with the acceleration- not the rocket ship that the Chrysler 300 is, at all.

"ax'd" him to write up my trade (96k miles) with a Summit V6. $31k out the door. I'm thinking about it.
2016 Limited added the acoustic glass like the Summit which will help quiet the ride. Just a thought.
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Old 01-27-2016, 07:43 PM
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Re: Test drives today

Surprised the new V6 felt heavy to you. I just went to a new High Altitude V6 and what I keep praising about it is how light it feels and drives.
My 2014 Summit V8 steering felt waaayyyyy heavy compared to the electric steering in my new V6. Infact that's another thing that helped make it feel light and nimble is the very easy steering. Again, surprised to see you feel that it's not as light as your older one. I had a 2012 Overland V6 and don't recall it feeling this nice.

As far as lack of power with the new Hemi, you obviously didn't try sport mode ;-) It's a blast and changes everything! With all that said though I really like my new V6 coming from the '14 Summit V8. I never even bothered test driving the diesel, but glad to hear you weren't interested as I may have done th same thing.
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Re: Test drives today

Just curious, what was your main reason for moving from the V8 to the V6? (FYI, I just ordered a 2016 Summit V8)
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Just curious, what was your main reason for moving from the V8 to the V6? (FYI, I just ordered a 2016 Summit V8)
You talkin to me? Since I did exactly that I will assume so. It was a few things. So first off I wanted the High Altitude so that's why I was getting a new one. I liked the V8, but in the end I never tow whatsoever, I never off-road, I live in the flat Midwest, and have a easy suburban 13 mile commute to work. I really have no use for such a capable SUV, let alone an SUV with a V8. So I test drove a new one with the V6. Honestly, I was blown away. Not as much with the power even though it feels 90% as quick as the Hemi, but just how light and nimble the Jeep felt. Much lighter steering, sportier suspension, and the overall lighter engine just gave the Jeep a completely different driving experience. Best way I can describe it is my V8 Summit felt like I was driving something big and heavy, with this new V6 High Altitude it feels more like a sporty sedan. The better fuel economy and use of regular fuel was also pretty high up in the books. What I miss most about my Summit V8 is it sure sounded great. Somehow the Jeep engineers made that thing just sound amazing in the cabin. Just the right amount of V8 sound. Not too quiet, but not too loud...just right. That great V8 sound in the cabin along with that great shifting ZF 8spd was music to my ears. In comparison the V6 isn't much to listen too, but does give a nice quiet driving experience. Hopefully that answers your question.
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It does indeed. Thanks.
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Surprised the new V6 felt heavy to you. I just went to a new High Altitude V6 and what I keep praising about it is how light it feels and drives.
My 2014 Summit V8 steering felt waaayyyyy heavy compared to the electric steering in my new V6. Infact that's another thing that helped make it feel light and nimble is the very easy steering. Again, surprised to see you feel that it's not as light as your older one. I had a 2012 Overland V6 and don't recall it feeling this nice.

As far as lack of power with the new Hemi, you obviously didn't try sport mode ;-) It's a blast and changes everything! With all that said though I really like my new V6 coming from the '14 Summit V8. I never even bothered test driving the diesel, but glad to hear you weren't interested as I may have done th same thing.

I just got new tires on my '12, and the mechanic adjusted the alignment a bit, and my car feels a lot lighter and precise than it did before. I'm guessing that the one I test drove may not have been aligned properly.

No I didn't try sport mode in the V8. Again I was comparing it to the 300 that I rented in California last year which was basically a rocket ship, and I didn't toggle a switch on that one. The salesman never pointed that out to me- he should have.
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You could buy a new Laredo and keep your Overland for that kind of money.
Or by a new windshield, modify my stereo with adaptive noise control and pocket about $29k.
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Or by a new windshield, modify my stereo with adaptive noise control and pocket about $29k.

Even better, lol
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I just got new tires on my '12, and the mechanic adjusted the alignment a bit, and my car feels a lot lighter and precise than it did before. I'm guessing that the one I test drove may not have been aligned properly.

No I didn't try sport mode in the V8. Again I was comparing it to the 300 that I rented in California last year which was basically a rocket ship, and I didn't toggle a switch on that one. The salesman never pointed that out to me- he should have.
The V8 is quick, but as you note it doesn't seem as quick in the GC as it does in a 300C.
Some of that may be throttle response tuning [i.e. too lazy to look up test results].

Unless FCA has resolved the clunkier shifting in their version of the 8 speed, consider that the one for the hemi and diesel is the one big Euro sports sedans use and the other is built by FCA under license from ZF.

You might not be that picky...

The V6 with the 8 speed is quite competitive to an older V8 without.
If you cross country a lot in mountainous terrain, the V8 performance hangs in there very nicely up to speeds I can't say until the statute of limitations runs out.
The v8 certainly handles frontal winds on the higher speed limits on western freeways better than the V6--particularly if loaded up.

I'd get quotes on a few different combos, then see what fits your tastes and willingness to bankrupt yourself over new wheels.
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