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Re: The end of V8 Hemi in 2019?

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You are either fibbing, or getting old.


I may be getting quilted seats, but I'll still have my HEMI!

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Re: The end of V8 Hemi in 2019?

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I disagree, the V6 is way too weak for me, for me it wasn't even a choice!
For me, there was a choice.

Either the 5.7L HEMI V8 or the 6.4L Monster HEMI V8!

My first vehicle had a 4 cylinder. My second had a V6. Then later I upgraded to a V8 (2005 Toyota 4Runner). After that upgrade, I was SOLD on V8 engines.

At least, until I find something with a V10 that is!
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I disagree, the V6 is way too weak for me, for me it wasn't even a choice!
I agree! When pushed, it sounded strained & overworked! I am sooooo glad I got the Hemi!
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Re: The end of V8 Hemi in 2019?

V6 or V8? Some people are on the wrong forum. Grindr is elsewhere. In all seriousness though, unless they reduce the weight of these vehicles the strain on the V6 (especially if you supercharge) will have them wearing down way too quickly. My buddy bought an eco boost from Ford. He tried to tow his boat. He now has a $100,000+ Denali. His reasoning "I don't ever want to be convinced a powerful V6 is meant for towing by a saleman again"

Now, his reasoning may be off but anyone who tows boats, trailers, campers etc is NEVER going to be okay with a V6
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Re: The end of V8 Hemi in 2019?

Prior to my JGC I owned an E-class AMG. Well, actually, I still have it. Anyways, a year or so ago I received a survey from the AMG Private Lounge. They wanted direct feedback from their owners on the future of the engines they will be putting in their cars. They asked questions about fuel economy, performance, sound, etc. I don't know the results of the survey or what exactly they plan to do with the feedback, but it was pretty clear they are looking to the future and trying to plan for things like emissions while still delivering performance.

I realize V8's are a pastime, and many brands have a long history of having V8's in their performance vehicles, but the trends are suggesting that other things are coming. I don't know that we are there yet, heck Mercedes still puts V12 biturbo engines in their highest performance vehicles, but the day may come where that's a 6 cylinder or electric assist.

With that said I do enjoy V8's and this is the first vehicle I've had since 2003 that doesn't have a V8 in it.
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Re: The end of V8 Hemi in 2019?

Got the feeling that this thread won't be lasting long? Or possibly 20+ pages? War between v6 and v8 will never stop. Yep, NEVER!

I got v8 hemi once and traded in w v6, pulls a same boat and guess what? It feels just same as v8 pulls.

People who love v8: [thumbup] and so to v6 owners too. Let's enjoy our jeeps!

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Got the feeling that this thread won't be lasting long? Or possibly 20+ pages? War between v6 and v8 will never stop. Yep, NEVER!
There are also other threads already existing on this very subject... And yes, there are folks who love V8s and will die if they go away and there are others who don't care much about it or are happy with other ideas. Nature of a subjective subject...
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Re: The end of V8 Hemi in 2019?

If you go back to 2013 you will find some very long and very heated 'discussions' about V8 vs V6. If I remember correctly at least one person was suspended from the site to give him time to cool off.

While I ordered another V8, over the years I have had a number of V6s that handily pulled some fairly heavy boats with no problem. The last was a 23' Sea Ray cabin job with a Mercruiser (Chevy) 350 V8, that we pulled with a V6 powered Explorer.

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Re: The end of V8 Hemi in 2019?

I can understand someone wanting, and being happy with the V-6 Penstar in it's current state, (non turbo). But I'll never buy into twin turbo V-6's..... Ever. I just can't see paying for, and dealing with all that expensive complexity. Especially when you can have a normally aspirated V-8 produce the same power.


There seems to be a love, hate relationship with turbo's. Generally speaking, people who keep their cars for long periods of years and mileage want nothing to do with them. I'm in that category. I know there are always people who will argue a turbo V-6 will last as long as a non turbo V-8. But the fact is the odds are against it. And when they go it's EXPENSIVE. You cannot get unlimited mileage and time warranties with turbo's, like you can with the 5.7 HEMI. That isn't because they're so cheap and trouble free. Especially once they're past the factory warranty period. And the mileage they're getting with these Eco Boost engines isn't that great. The general consensus with all of this, is if you're younger and don't keep your vehicle for long periods, a turbo is fine. But if you "drive them into the ground", it's the last thing you want under the hood. Too much risk, with almost no reward. Sadly, if you want a V-8, it looks as if you're going to be on borrowed time to get one.
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Re: The end of V8 Hemi in 2019?

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I can understand someone wanting, and being happy with the V-6 Penstar in it's current state, (non turbo). But I'll never buy into twin turbo V-6's..... Ever. I just can't see paying for, and dealing with all that expensive complexity. Especially when you can have a normally aspirated V-8 produce the same power.
I think what will happen over time, and is happening now, is that the turbo engines will improve to where they will be more reliable and last longer, if the companies feel they are the future.

The Ford I am trading in now is a 4cyl Turbo. It only has 12,000 miles on it, but it has plenty of power for the application and gets better gas mileage than anything I ever owned. I have never been too concerned with gas mileage, so I accept that for local driving it will be cut in half when I get my new Hemi. But I'll have a bigger tank!

The only other 4cyl I ever owned was a 1953 Morris Minor convertible. I had it a few years before I was old enough to drive, but had a lot of fun with it. When the 6 volt battery died, it had a crank start.

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Re: The end of V8 Hemi in 2019?

Wet curious about this twin turbo engine as well . As someone who loves v8's I can't justify it in a suv anymore. Wouldn't a 3.0 or 3.6 liter twin turbo have more horsepower and torque than a 5.7 hemi?

Auidi has a 3.0 liter I believe that is supercharged and I think it gets like 450-550hp?
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Re: The end of V8 Hemi in 2019?

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I think what will happen over time, and is happening now, is that the turbo engines will improve to where they will be more reliable and last longer, if the companies feel they are the future.
Sure, they'll no doubt improve in longevity as time passes. The problem is to convince consumers of that. They can do it if they offer warranties just as long. But as of now they're not. Not Ford, Chrysler, Mercedes, BMW, or anyone else for that matter. If I could have gotten the same lifetime warranty with the turbo Eco Diesel in my Grand Cherokee, I'd be driving one now. But I couldn't, so I went with the HEMI.

I'll have the same attitude with any turbo gasoline engine. I'm going to keep my HEMI for a long time. But if I have to replace my truck that's quite old, (1991), I'll still be looking for a V-8..... If I don't wait too long.
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