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Re: Thinking about 2014 GC - help needed

Yes, dealers will want to sell what they have "now" because they are paying for that inventory, but they do quite well financially on an ordered vehicle, too. Don't limit yourself to just your local dealer(s), either...buy on price and get what you want. You can search on the Jeep.com site for inventory within x miles and once you figure out a few tricks in the search thingie (technical term... ), you can pinpoint vehicles that match or are close to what you desire in trim level and additional options.
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Old 08-10-2013, 05:07 AM
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Re: Thinking about 2014 GC - help needed

I've asked myself the same questions as I'm about to drop some coin on a 2014 GC. I come from a electrical service background and have a thing about minimising points of failure and try to keep things simple. I've been doing tons of research and have looked all all SUV/4x4 type trucks and the Jeep ticks so many boxes the others can't. No matter where I look I keep coming back to the Jeep. I can buy whatever I want (within reason) as my company pays the car and fuel bills. Toyota makes a great vehicle but as far as trucks go they have fallen behind or have rested on their laurels while others have passed them by. Their Land Cruiser Prado/Lexus GX here in Oz just doesn't compare anymore.

Loaded Limited or Stock Overland? I don't know about the USA but in Australia there really isn't a massive price difference between the two. The Overland offers stuff like Blind Spot Alert and Adaptive Cruise Control as standard as well as the Luxury Pack with the Ventilated Perforated Leather Seats. The leather on the dash is pretty cool too. If you can live without the gadgets or off-road stuff, the Limited is way to go and is quite capable and drives really well. Overland has the Air Ride as standard but I also didn't notice a huge difference in the ride over the Limited's Steel Springs. Both have the same sound system which seems like a PITA to upgrade if you are a SQ guy like me (coming from a Lexus with amazing no-name stock audio).

The good thing I like about the Limited is that as standard it has very few points of failure such as the QL and Pano Roof. Also, if you get the Light Frost Beige interior the floor carpets are black which is great because hey, it's a Jeep. The Overland's carpet is beige and if you just take a look at any demo models, they get pretty dirty around the edges.

In the end you have to break it down to probably three major buying points. For a lot of people it's Price, Practicality and Ego. Not saying this is you, but if you take ego out of the question, your decision is probably made.
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Re: Thinking about 2014 GC - help needed

Thanks for all the updates. I am hoping to get an extended test drive Monday to see which model I prefer and also if it is what I want. The 2014 just has too many features to get used to in a 10-20 minutes test drive. I also am looking into affiliate pricing to see if I qualify.

I have a bit of a rant about Jeep/Chrysler shopping though - I have shopped and bought cars for years going through the internet and working with dealers. I usually request email as the main contact point because of my work hours and that way everything is in writing. Some dealers still call me but it's always a salesman from the dealership and not a telemarketer.

Now since I started looking for a new vehicle this year (Acura, Audi, BMW, Jeep, and Toyota) only ONE company is giving my name to telemarketers/phone centers to call me and that is Jeep/Chrysler. Today (Saturday) I have multiple calls from the Chrysler call center, I missed the first two but the third one I answered wondering who was trying to call me. I was polite at first figuring the call was just to make sure I was contacted by respective dealerships and to see if I had any questions but then the call got aggressive pushing me to commit to an appointment at the dealership without asking if I would like them to do that for me. Is this standard practice for Chrysler and it's dealerships to have aggressive telemarketing type people call perspective customers? This will make the third time since I started shopping that I was contacted by telemarketer types on behalf of Jeep/Dealerships. I know it's not the end of the world to receive an unwanted phone call from an aggressive telemarketer but it is off putting to say the least and usually companies that resort to this sales tactic I avoid.

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Old 08-10-2013, 04:49 PM
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Re: Thinking about 2014 GC - help needed

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Now since I started looking for a new vehicle this year (Acura, Audi, BMW, Jeep, and Toyota) only ONE company is giving my name to telemarketers/phone centers to call me and that is Jeep/Chrysler. Today (Saturday) I have multiple calls from the Chrysler call center, I missed the first two but the third one I answered wondering who was trying to call me.
Huh. When I was shopping I never got any calls from a call center.

In fact the only unsolicited contact I got was an email from the internet sales guy at one of the dealers (the one I eventually bought from), saying "We just got an Overland in with the Light Frost interior you were looking at. Let me know if you want to come check it out and take it for a ride." .. and all the calls that were the result of a question from me ('solicited') were from a real person on the other end of the line.

Things may be different up here, especially with the more rural dealers I've been dealing with.

I wonder if there are different contact and followup levels that dealers can sign up for with Chrysler, where the dealership really isn't involved until the potential customer shows up.

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Re: Thinking about 2014 GC - help needed

Today I took an extended test drive of a 2014 GC Overland and here are my observations -

Overall I like this vehicle a lot, rides well, has a lot of features and looks good. I will say considering the exterior dimensions it's odd my Highlander on the insides feels roomier and has more storage areas for passengers but it's not a deal breaker.

One thing I noticed is I parked the vehicle and selected park/entry height which worked fine though a bit slowly (15-20 seconds) after which I shut off the vehicle. Now it's my understanding upon a restart and driving the vehicle automatically goes back to normal ride height but after ten minutes of driving with some stops for red lights the vehicle kept saying "Raising". At the third stop light I pressed lower waited until it said lowered and then pressed raise one time and it worked fine. I like the air suspension especially helping some of my passengers exit/entry but I thought it reacted quicker and it's a little worrisome that it had problems raising automatically. Is this normal or out of the ordinary?

I also talked to the accessfund site which I joined the other day seems I have to wait 30 days for the code, which keeps me from doing anything right now.
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Re: Thinking about 2014 GC - help needed

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Today I took an extended test drive of a 2014 GC Overland and here are my observations -

Overall I like this vehicle a lot, rides well, has a lot of features and looks good. I will say considering the exterior dimensions it's odd my Highlander on the insides feels roomier and has more storage areas for passengers but it's not a deal breaker.

One thing I noticed is I parked the vehicle and selected park/entry height which worked fine though a bit slowly (15-20 seconds) after which I shut off the vehicle. Now it's my understanding upon a restart and driving the vehicle automatically goes back to normal ride height but after ten minutes of driving with some stops for red lights the vehicle kept saying "Raising". At the third stop light I pressed lower waited until it said lowered and then pressed raise one time and it worked fine. I like the air suspension especially helping some of my passengers exit/entry but I thought it reacted quicker and it's a little worrisome that it had problems raising automatically. Is this normal or out of the ordinary?

I also talked to the accessfund site which I joined the other day seems I have to wait 30 days for the code, which keeps me from doing anything right now.
Thank you for the observations....I'm still looking over things and the Limited seems to be where I settle.
Too bad it doesn't feel like the same room as the Highlander, odd Jeep designed it that way.
Anyway keep posting what you find out as it helps and I wish you the best.
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Today I took an extended test drive of a 2014 GC Overland and here are my observations -

Overall I like this vehicle a lot, rides well, has a lot of features and looks good. I will say considering the exterior dimensions it's odd my Highlander on the insides feels roomier and has more storage areas for passengers but it's not a deal breaker.

One thing I noticed is I parked the vehicle and selected park/entry height which worked fine though a bit slowly (15-20 seconds) after which I shut off the vehicle. Now it's my understanding upon a restart and driving the vehicle automatically goes back to normal ride height but after ten minutes of driving with some stops for red lights the vehicle kept saying "Raising". At the third stop light I pressed lower waited until it said lowered and then pressed raise one time and it worked fine. I like the air suspension especially helping some of my passengers exit/entry but I thought it reacted quicker and it's a little worrisome that it had problems raising automatically. Is this normal or out of the ordinary?

I also talked to the accessfund site which I joined the other day seems I have to wait 30 days for the code, which keeps me from doing anything right now.
I didn't have to wait 30 days for the code from access fund FYI, it was available in just a couple of days
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I didn't have to wait 30 days for the code from access fund FYI, it was available in just a couple of days
Can you PM me how you got it? I called them today and they said 30 days but I sure would like a shortcut.
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Today I took an extended test drive of a 2014 GC Overland and here are my observations -

Overall I like this vehicle a lot, rides well, has a lot of features and looks good. I will say considering the exterior dimensions it's odd my Highlander on the insides feels roomier and has more storage areas for passengers but it's not a deal breaker.

One thing I noticed is I parked the vehicle and selected park/entry height which worked fine though a bit slowly (15-20 seconds) after which I shut off the vehicle. Now it's my understanding upon a restart and driving the vehicle automatically goes back to normal ride height but after ten minutes of driving with some stops for red lights the vehicle kept saying "Raising". At the third stop light I pressed lower waited until it said lowered and then pressed raise one time and it worked fine. I like the air suspension especially helping some of my passengers exit/entry but I thought it reacted quicker and it's a little worrisome that it had problems raising automatically. Is this normal or out of the ordinary?

I also talked to the accessfund site which I joined the other day seems I have to wait 30 days for the code, which keeps me from doing anything right now.
There's something wrong with the air suspension on the one you drove. My air suspension goes up (or down) in like 5 seconds.
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Now it's my understanding upon a restart and driving the vehicle automatically goes back to normal ride height but after ten minutes of driving with some stops for red lights the vehicle kept saying "Raising".
Mine does this too. Not every time, but occasionally. It seems like the suspension has reached the desired height, but the light on the dash keeps telling me otherwise. Definitely not a normal situation.

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Re: Thinking about 2014 GC - help needed

I felt the vehicle was a bit slow responding on the Air Suspension the whole time and I read about others noticing false messages of it raising/lowering so maybe it's a software glitch. I wouldn't be buying that particular Overland any how because it had the advanced tech package which I personally don't want.

I was glad I took the extended test drive because overall the vehicle is easy to use once you familiarize oneself to the controls and there placement but it took me a little while. On the highway the vehicle was quiet enough and tracked well, over city streets the ride was firm but not harsh and though it's no handling champion it felt controlled during turns. The V6 engine is a bit louder than I'm used to but I never felt it was lacking in power for my driving style.

The interior has decent quality in most areas one sees while sitting and would touch but the other areas seem a bit lower quality than you would expect. I already commented on how for the size it seems to have less roominess and storage capability in the passenger areas that my highlander which is similarly sized on exterior dimensions (wider seats, more small item compartments in dash and center console, more headroom, more cupholders, larger center console storage, more rear passenger legroom) but the cargo area seems to be similar sized if not bigger. I do like that every control is lit so you can see it during night driving (a definite minus on the Highlander that Toyota should be ashamed of with the cost of leds now). The audio system sounds good but I do feel the Overland should have a step up system over the limited. The dual moonroof is a nice feature. The seats are a bit firm/narrow and I wonder how they would feel after a long road trip but I had no issues driving around town. The vehicle is very quiet other than the engine/exhaust note that sometimes is noticeable.

I do worry about the quality of this vehicle, I know most complaints revolve around Uconnect/electronics which updates may fix but I found some issues with the one I drove such as the air suspension being slow and the rear seat leather wasn't fully installed (bottom clip was out). I don't expect a vehicle to be perfect but the 2014 Jeeps seem to have more than their fair share of issues and owner complaints, hopefully Jeep will have fixes for these common issues and this is not a sign of things to come as the vehicle ages.

*Update - I have read that it appears vehicles built after a certain date in July have fixes for transmission and radio issues, has anyone confirmed this and if true how does one easily tell what date the vehicle was made on without looking at the door sticker?

So having said all that the 2014 Jeep GC is probably tops on my short list (X3, MDX, Q5) of new vehicles I would buy.
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Thanks for all the updates. I am hoping to get an extended test drive Monday to see which model I prefer and also if it is what I want. The 2014 just has too many features to get used to in a 10-20 minutes test drive. I also am looking into affiliate pricing to see if I qualify.

I have a bit of a rant about Jeep/Chrysler shopping though - I have shopped and bought cars for years going through the internet and working with dealers. I usually request email as the main contact point because of my work hours and that way everything is in writing. Some dealers still call me but it's always a salesman from the dealership and not a telemarketer.

Now since I started looking for a new vehicle this year (Acura, Audi, BMW, Jeep, and Toyota) only ONE company is giving my name to telemarketers/phone centers to call me and that is Jeep/Chrysler. Today (Saturday) I have multiple calls from the Chrysler call center, I missed the first two but the third one I answered wondering who was trying to call me. I was polite at first figuring the call was just to make sure I was contacted by respective dealerships and to see if I had any questions but then the call got aggressive pushing me to commit to an appointment at the dealership without asking if I would like them to do that for me. Is this standard practice for Chrysler and it's dealerships to have aggressive telemarketing type people call perspective customers? This will make the third time since I started shopping that I was contacted by telemarketer types on behalf of Jeep/Dealerships. I know it's not the end of the world to receive an unwanted phone call from an aggressive telemarketer but it is off putting to say the least and usually companies that resort to this sales tactic I avoid.

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Are you sure this was from a Chrysler call center and not someone working at a specific dealership? I've had this happen after giving my info to dealerships... I'd get calls almost daily and emails re: my scheduled appointment that I never made.
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