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Re: Thinking about 2014 GC - help needed

I travel 8 miles of crappy north Idaho road each way almost every day. I had a 2009 Highlander Hybrid which was definitely not up to the task. I couldn't disable the traction control and when all four wheels started spinning, the Highlander just stopped. I traded it in for a 2011 Overland w/quadra-drive II and Air Suspension. During the winter I put 18" wheels w/snow tires on all four wheels. The jeep never got stuck. My private driveway has a 10 degree grade in places and at times had either 2' of snow/ice or 6-8" of mud. I had the mud flaps on both the front and rear. I found they were useless for cutting down on the mud and dust, but did a good job catching gravel tossed from the snow tires. The Mopar rubber mats fit well and worked great at keeping the snow and mud off the carpet. The rear cargo mat was also a must have. I found the snow tires with the 18" rims gave me a little softer ride and seemed to absorb the pothole shock loads a little better than the 20" wheels. Hope this helps.
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I travel 8 miles of crappy north Idaho road each way almost every day. I had a 2009 Highlander Hybrid which was definitely not up to the task. I couldn't disable the traction control and when all four wheels started spinning, the Highlander just stopped. I traded it in for a 2011 Overland w/quadra-drive II and Air Suspension. During the winter I put 18" wheels w/snow tires on all four wheels. The jeep never got stuck. My private driveway has a 10 degree grade in places and at times had either 2' of snow/ice or 6-8" of mud. I had the mud flaps on both the front and rear. I found they were useless for cutting down on the mud and dust, but did a good job catching gravel tossed from the snow tires. The Mopar rubber mats fit well and worked great at keeping the snow and mud off the carpet. The rear cargo mat was also a must have. I found the snow tires with the 18" rims gave me a little softer ride and seemed to absorb the pothole shock loads a little better than the 20" wheels. Hope this helps.
Thanks for sharing gives me some food for thought.
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Thanks for the information on warranties/service contracts and am I right you can buy these anytime during the vehicles 3 year regular warranty though maybe not at same cost?

I see one vote for mudflaps, any others? I won't be doing any serious off roading or anything.

Also I still am waiting on my affiliate code but I saw my dealership has a 2014 on the lot that fits my requirements perfectly even built in August and another one of the way but when I asked my salesman he say's none are on the lot and all the ones coming in have the advanced tech package but maybe they can locate one for me. Now maybe both vehicles are custom orders and already spoken for but I am perplexed to say the least. I may just go to another dealer that say's they can order one and see what kind of deal can be worked out even if I do have to wait.
Once a dealer figures you are serious, they have the ability to trade with other dealers, pick up cars from other dealers etc, as someone in the area may have some in stock, order to sell but buyer had to back out, etc.

Don't knock that adv tech package... besides, if you trust the dealer you can allow as it is the perfect vehicle for you, but you really have no need of the tech package, but to make the sale, would they drop the price of the unwanted package by a really good amount...

One teeny little problem is that I haven't seen any 2014s gathering dust on any dealer lot in the entire Denver metro area all the way almost to the Wyoming line.
This is not good news for getting super discounts or having a lot of bargaining power unless you are working with a dealer where you've done a lot of business.
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I travel 8 miles of crappy north Idaho road each way almost every day. I had a 2009 Highlander Hybrid which was definitely not up to the task. I couldn't disable the traction control and when all four wheels started spinning, the Highlander just stopped. I traded it in for a 2011 Overland w/quadra-drive II and Air Suspension. During the winter I put 18" wheels w/snow tires on all four wheels. The jeep never got stuck. My private driveway has a 10 degree grade in places and at times had either 2' of snow/ice or 6-8" of mud. I had the mud flaps on both the front and rear. I found they were useless for cutting down on the mud and dust, but did a good job catching gravel tossed from the snow tires. The Mopar rubber mats fit well and worked great at keeping the snow and mud off the carpet. The rear cargo mat was also a must have. I found the snow tires with the 18" rims gave me a little softer ride and seemed to absorb the pothole shock loads a little better than the 20" wheels. Hope this helps.
Do those mudflaps on the WK2 collect ice in the wheel wells?

I drive Colorado 2 lane mountain roads, and on an old ZJ, there were many times when the ice from the front would build up almost all the way to the rear wheels, and would accumulate enough that the bottom of the ice was dragging on the road.

I put the flaps on to deal with the mud and gravel the front wheels kick up with standard tires... but my winter wheels stick out about a half inch beyond stock, and with the Hakka 7s, I'm wondering what issues I'll be dealing with in a coupla months. [getting stuck isn't an expected issue, the old ZJ with studded Coopers never had that happen and I would expect the 14 with Hakka 7's to be even better]
Wondering if the darn ice will accumulate in FRONT of the mudflap as the temperature drops and the snow accumulates on my favorite canyons and peak to peak.
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Re: Thinking about 2014 GC - help needed

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Briant, welcome to the forum. As far as reliability goes, Jeep has definitely been improving over the last several years, but it's a machine, and Murphy's Law predicts that sh*t happens. We have a '08 Compass that is as rock solid as the day we bought it. So I know Jeep can build a great vehicle. If you peruse the trade journals, you'll start seeing that the JGC is probably one of, if not, the most popular SUVs ever. That has to mean something about reliability. Take a look around when you're driving, I'm sure you'll see plenty of old GCs still on the road. Make sure you test drive a '14, especially the V6, you'll be in for a pleasant surprise.

As far as the Pano roof, Quadra-Lift, and sound systems go, keep digging around the forum, there's a mess of info.

Best pricing for me came with the Chrysler Affiliate Rewards Program. Check it out, you may qualify. https://www.chrysleraffiliates.com/JSP/indexLayout.jsp

Also look into the group buys some are involved with. Good luck!
Agreed.

Although the V6 is really nice and the 8 speed truly makes it a different beast, I would suggest also trying a Hemi. Different 8 speed feel. And if you can find a diesel [good luck], try that as well.

Drop a Hemi into sport mode, depress right pedal. Try to keep from grinning, go on, I challenge ya, just try to keep from grinning.

Then you think about the Quadra-Lift and the electronic locker rear and the availability of the OR packages.
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Old 08-29-2013, 01:51 PM
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Re: Thinking about 2014 GC - help needed

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Do those mudflaps on the WK2 collect ice in the wheel wells?

I drive Colorado 2 lane mountain roads, and on an old ZJ, there were many times when the ice from the front would build up almost all the way to the rear wheels, and would accumulate enough that the bottom of the ice was dragging on the road.

I put the flaps on to deal with the mud and gravel the front wheels kick up with standard tires... but my winter wheels stick out about a half inch beyond stock, and with the Hakka 7s, I'm wondering what issues I'll be dealing with in a coupla months. [getting stuck isn't an expected issue, the old ZJ with studded Coopers never had that happen and I would expect the 14 with Hakka 7's to be even better]
Wondering if the darn ice will accumulate in FRONT of the mudflap as the temperature drops and the snow accumulates on my favorite canyons and peak to peak.
Yes, snow, slush, and ice do accumulate on the mud flaps (both front and rear). I had to knock it off almost daily.
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So I have narrowed it down to a base Overland or well optioned Limited. Things I am still debating other than that -

Stay local and get affiliate pricing or go looking for better than affliate deals even if I have to drive a couple hours?

20-18" wheels - I don't off road but want something that rides well all season and is good in dry/wet/snow. Are the 20s decent for that and avoiding getting the rims dented if a curb has irregularities one doesn't see when parking?
I went with 18" wheels.

I previously had a 2003 Murano that I bought new. It had Goodyear 18" wheels when most SUVs didn't have them. That year I had to replace a tire and it took the Goodyear dealer a week to get a new one in. The Nissan dealers didn't have any. I ended up getting a full size spare because of how hard it was to get tires. Now, they are quite common.

I replaced the stock Michelins with Hancock tires at the tire store a month ago, shortly after getting my 2014 Limited. The tire guy told me that 20" wheels are where the 18" wheels were 10 years ago. They were able to get the Hancock tires for my 18" wheels in a day, tires for a 20" wheel would have taken a few days longer. So they might be hard to find if you need to replace one.

This was important to me because I travel through Maine and New Brunswick, Canada when I go home for Christmas. Places where it's hard to find less popular tire sizes.

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Mud flaps - I have read pros/cons of these but if they really do help keep the vehicle clean/protected it's a must. What are your experiences?
I just put them on mine. I can't comment on how well they are doing.

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Floor liners - I want something better then the stock carpet anyone have the mopar all weather mats and pics?
There is a floor mat discussion here:
http://www.jeepgarage.org/f73/floor-...ner-64157.html

I went with the WeatherTech mats for front, rear, and cargo. I plan on buying a set of Catch-All's for the front when they come out with a version for the 2014 GC. The Catch-All mats have carpeting on them. The WeatherTechs are all rubber. I had the Catch-Alls in my Murano and loved them.
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I went with the WeatherTech mats for front, rear, and cargo. I plan on buying a set of Catch-All's for the front when they come out with a version for the 2014 GC.
I'd like the Catch-Alls, also, but we may be disappointed. They are not "available" for 2011, 2012, or 2013 WK2's, so I'd be surprised if there is a fit for 2014s.
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Re: Thinking about 2014 GC - help needed

I thank everyone for commenting and offering their personal experiences and advice. I have plans to do more shopping tomorrow and see what happens.
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Re: Thinking about 2014 GC - help needed

Just wanted to update that I went shopping over the weekend and after some haggling I brought home a brand new 2014 JGC V6 4x4 Overland.

I still am debating what type of floor liners and if I want mud flaps but everything else went pretty smooth with the help of everyone here. This site and it's members helped me find great pricing on the vehicle (affliate pricing) and know what I was buying also. I added max care (not the lifetime) after the dealership was willing to negotiate the price of that.

I also answered or at least mostly answered a question I asked before in this thread on how can the JGC being as big it is seems to have less interior space then my previous Highlander. The answer at least for space front to back is easy if I would of opened the engine bay anytime, there is a ton of empty space there on the V6 models for the larger hemis to go in. The Toyota on the other hand was designed for the 3.5l V6 as the biggest engine which means a smaller engine compartment and more useable interior space for passengers.

Since this thread was started to help me decide if I want a new JGC, which model/features, and how to get a great deal I will say Thanks one more time to everyone and hopefully some prospective buyers can use this as a resource. Any new questions/comments I have will be in new threads but if someone wants to post here I will check back from time to time.
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Congrats on your purchase. Enjoy your new Jeep
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Agreed.

Although the V6 is really nice and the 8 speed truly makes it a different beast, I would suggest also trying a Hemi. Different 8 speed feel. And if you can find a diesel [good luck], try that as well.

Drop a Hemi into sport mode, depress right pedal. Try to keep from grinning, go on, I challenge ya, just try to keep from grinning.

Then you think about the Quadra-Lift and the electronic locker rear and the availability of the OR packages.
Although the Hemi is really nice, you should try the Ecodiesel. Talk about torque. Mine should be delivered in the next week or two.
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