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Good luck tomorrow! We know that you really would like to keep it. Plus, the threat from your wife is a good incentive.



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I bought mine in July 2013. No major problems so far. Dealer has been great with recalls etc. Still need to go in for OCR, sun visor, and latest Trans update. Its been a max of 2 to 3 hours at the dealership each time I've gone in for a recall. I always scheduled it when I need the oil changed.

Not to negate the problems that others have had or are going through but Jeep has sold a ton of vehicles. My point is that Jeep seems to have gotten a lot better at quality control in comparison to the vehicles that they produced in early 2013.

I wish you guys luck. There is nothing worse than buying a new car, looking forward to at least 5 trouble free years, and having it constantly at the dealer.
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Re: Thinking of dropping my Jeep

I was one of the early ones. Ordered my 14 Summit V6 4x4 and received it April 6, 2013. I didn't have anything major. I had the recalls done but never had any of the problems actually happen. I did have the delayed cold shifting issue but pretty minor and newer firmware improved it. Overall very happy with it.


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I have an early one as well, and has had problems, but they always got fixed:
  • replaced navigation/infotainment unit 3 times (still freezes randomly, last time twice, on 2 consecutive days 2 weeks ago on a big trip out of state)
  • leaking radiator
  • active cruise control unit
I am not sure what the deal is with the transmission - maybe mine is not harsh enough to sense it or maybe it is the driving style. I never had any of the reported problems and I only seem to spend a few days at a time in shop every 6 -9 months so I am used to it by now.


I have the older Subaru and at 10.5 years old and 110,000 miles is getting a bit long in the tooth. A Chrysler 200 fully optioned out with AWD, toys, the 3.6 L V6 engine is nice and considerably cheaper then everything else on the market. But it is slow and it would require some sort of supercharger to make it faster, and the platform is likely as issue-prone as the Jeep. I am not sure I want 2 cars in the dealership at the same time. As such, I am confronted with the dilemma of getting something Japanese like Infiniti Q50 and live through the next global airbag drama or buy something home grown and live with questionable overall reliability.
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5) Poor service at Jeep dealerships - Worst experiences I've ever had at any auto dealership EVER...15 years behind the times or more in customer service. No loners given unless you purchase an extended warrany.

To clarify, you STILL don't get loaners if you have the extended warranty. They just reimburse you some of the car rental cost ($35/day if they have a FCA vehicle, otherwise, only $20). You still have to go to some crappy car rental place, deal with getting a car, returning the car, etc. And it is much worse than what you're handing over. The last time I did this I had to wait 1.5 hours to get driven to the car rental place. Then to get driven back to the dealership I started to realize it would take just as long so I got an uber car.

The service is horrendous. So bad that I am totally done with Jeep after this car, despite this being my third Jeep vehicle. The fact is that for the higher trims they are selling at luxury prices but offering only "hey bub, you get what you pay for" type service, which removes all of the value and then some associated with your cost savings. It is so awful that I have squeaks and rattles that I just leave alone rather than repair because I don't want to deal with the hell that comes with fixing something with the vehicle.
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I have an early one as well, and has had problems, but they always got fixed:
  • replaced navigation/infotainment unit 3 times (still freezes randomly, last time twice, on 2 consecutive days 2 weeks ago on a big trip out of state)
  • leaking radiator
  • active cruise control unit
I am not sure what the deal is with the transmission - maybe mine is not harsh enough to sense it or maybe it is the driving style. I never had any of the reported problems and I only seem to spend a few days at a time in shop every 6 -9 months so I am used to it by now.


I have the older Subaru and at 10.5 years old and 110,000 miles is getting a bit long in the tooth. A Chrysler 200 fully optioned out with AWD, toys, the 3.6 L V6 engine is nice and considerably cheaper then everything else on the market. But it is slow and it would require some sort of supercharger to make it faster, and the platform is likely as issue-prone as the Jeep. I am not sure I want 2 cars in the dealership at the same time. As such, I am confronted with the dilemma of getting something Japanese like Infiniti Q50 and live through the next global airbag drama or buy something home grown and live with questionable overall reliability.
I got a 200 as a rental for a repair issue with my JGC. Really didn't like it. I suggest you test drive it before you buy it, but my Nissan Maxima rental was much enjoyable.
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s such, I am confronted with the dilemma of getting something Japanese like Infiniti Q50...
If you are interested in the Q50, wait until 2016 because Infiniti ditched the awful steering system and went with an improved steering rack from the G37. That awful steering was the Q50's biggest complaint.

http://blog.caranddriver.com/oh-than...stem-for-2016/
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Re: Thinking of dropping my Jeep

I know about the electronic steering. But it also helped the car achieve good steering characteristics despite the lack of feedback. I also wanna see the V6 turbo
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I know about the electronic steering. But it also helped the car achieve good steering characteristics despite the lack of feedback. I also wanna see the V6 turbo
Owning an Overland really has me hooked on luxury now...

...got my eyes on a 2015 C300 Sport 4Matic...the interior is incredible and blows everything in it's class out of the water...AND it gets 31 mpg on the highway!


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To clarify, you STILL don't get loaners if you have the extended warranty. They just reimburse you some of the car rental cost ($35/day if they have a FCA vehicle, otherwise, only $20). You still have to go to some crappy car rental place, deal with getting a car, returning the car, etc. And it is much worse than what you're handing over. The last time I did this I had to wait 1.5 hours to get driven to the car rental place. Then to get driven back to the dealership I started to realize it would take just as long so I got an uber car.

The service is horrendous. So bad that I am totally done with Jeep after this car, despite this being my third Jeep vehicle. The fact is that for the higher trims they are selling at luxury prices but offering only "hey bub, you get what you pay for" type service, which removes all of the value and then some associated with your cost savings. It is so awful that I have squeaks and rattles that I just leave alone rather than repair because I don't want to deal with the hell that comes with fixing something with the vehicle.
That is not how the rentals are handled at all dealers, how the car rental is handled is dealer dependant. At the dealer i use just tell the service manager i want a rental he types it in and an enterprise car rental agent who is standing right there asks me to pick a car and hands me the keys, cars are all on site. Dealer pays full rental cost directly to enterprise and i have never paid anything. The cars are good also i have had jeeps, charger, v8 challenger, 4 door RAM pickup v8, i pick a different one each time to try out different things. I have had them as short as 2 hours and as long as 5 days. Its technically a rental but the program behaves like a loaner program. So the rental experiance has been very good but the fact that i had to use that service many times is not good though,
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That is not how the rentals are handled at all dealers, how the car rental is handled is dealer dependant. At the dealer i use just tell the service manager i want a rental he types it in and an enterprise car rental agent who is standing right there asks me to pick a car and hands me the keys, cars are all on site. Dealer pays full rental cost directly to enterprise and i have never paid anything. The cars are good also i have had jeeps, charger, v8 challenger, 4 door RAM pickup v8, i pick a different one each time to try out different things. I have had them as short as 2 hours and as long as 5 days. Its technically a rental but the program behaves like a loaner program. So the rental experiance has been very good but the fact that i had to use that service many times is not good though,
If you link to a dealer through Jeep.com it should list the services the dealer provides. Some list rentals, some don't. The dealer I used does have onsite rental. If somebody doesn't have the coverage and the car will be there for a long time, they do have a few loaners available.


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Ownership of a German car is like dating a supermodel hooked on crack, a wise man said on this site not too long ago, which served 2 purposes. Reminded me the "saying" and confirmed why I preferred the simple Asian girl next door. Which in the context of cars means Japanese cars. In the context of human relationships...my wife is Asian but she is as complex as a Nissan GTR. Hmmm maybe that's why I want an Infiniti...

I would also take an S4 with lifetime warranty ...
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