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Re: Tires on ORA equipped GC at NYC Auto Show

It's a known fact that "aggressive" tires on the Jeep will void your ENTIRE warranty.


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And for whatever reason, unknown to those men of reason, ya'll expect that the Jeep will maintain its fuel economy ratings with an aggressive off-road tire...

The acquisition cost of better tires is just part of it. The fuel economy rating is more important to Chrysler than putting aggressive off-road tires on their bread and butter SUV that rarely sees any off road action. They are not going to do it just to appease the once-a-year off-road junkies who want an off road tire for the perceived off road expedition on the forest preserve.

I took mine really off road and talked about it here. The car did fine with stock tires. Jeep is not going to upgrade the tires for me and my 200 other enthusiasts on this forum brave enough to risk trashing their 40,000 SUV.
Your statement has some truth in it, but they offer ORA, which probably makes up a tiny % of units purchased overall. Why offer this and then not give you an off-road tire, worst yet call it an off-road tire.
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My good man, thank you for your invaluable insight, but we are not talking about super swampers..just something that is not classified as an all season tire, something that perhaps has the ability to carve thru a little mud or traversing some gravel without spinning out. What separates the Trail hawk from the ORA package..? Why would one be assumed more worthy of an appropriate off road tire than the other?? And furthermore, we are talking about a factory option for offroad performance not the standard dealer stocked *flagship * GC that is geared towards the masses..
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Re: Tires on ORA equipped GC at NYC Auto Show

Right. When I was looking to buy mine, it was nigh impossible to find one with the ORA2 package. I say for people who are seeking out the Trail Rated badge, give them a halfway decent AT tire.
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Possibly CityCrawler saw the GY Wrangler AT Adventures, which look nearly identical and have replaced the Silent Armors.

Regardless, it is without a doubt in my mind, the tire that should come with any ORA Jeep packages.
I agree, and this is likely what I will be replacing the Latitudes with as soon as I can after taking delivery.
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I took mine really off road and talked about it here. The car did fine with stock tires.
To be fair I have done this as well, and for the most part I agree. The Latitudes on my '12 are okay for what they are. Not so great in snow, not so great in the sand, but for the most part they got the job done. Definitely not 100% drama-free however...
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And for whatever reason, unknown to those men of reason, ya'll expect that the Jeep will maintain its fuel economy ratings with an aggressive off-road tire...

The acquisition cost of better tires is just part of it. The fuel economy rating is more important to Chrysler than putting aggressive off-road tires on their bread and butter SUV that rarely sees any off road action. They are not going to do it just to appease the once-a-year off-road junkies who want an off road tire for the perceived off road expedition on the forest preserve.

I took mine really off road and talked about it here. The car did fine with stock tires. Jeep is not going to upgrade the tires for me and my 200 other enthusiasts on this forum brave enough to risk trashing their 40,000 SUV.
The Silent Armors and the new Wrangler ATs are hardly what I would call "an aggressive off-road tire" and the Adventures have actually out-performed the sad Forteras in every aspect so far, but mainly the on road handling and reduced road noise, which is definitely not something ATs are known for. They are actually described as for those who spend 80% of their time on road and the rest off. So I think Jeep could've done every single WK2 owner a favor and ditched the Forteras and Latitudes for these, regardless if they ever see any off road situations.

Just saying.

*I was also lucky enough to swap out my stockers (even 4,000 miles in) with the Adventures because they weren't passing the road balancing tests and were ruled imperfectly round. So Goodyear covered the cost and I only paid for the mounting and balancing of the new set. Not that I even should of had to pay for that, but I was grateful to be rid of the weaker "on road/off road capable" tires my ORA1 package came with.
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Re: Tires on ORA equipped GC at NYC Auto Show

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And for whatever reason, unknown to those men of reason, ya'll expect that the Jeep will maintain its fuel economy ratings with an aggressive off-road tire...

The acquisition cost of better tires is just part of it. The fuel economy rating is more important to Chrysler than putting aggressive off-road tires on their bread and butter SUV that rarely sees any off road action. They are not going to do it just to appease the once-a-year off-road junkies who want an off road tire for the perceived off road expedition on the forest preserve.

I took mine really off road and talked about it here. The car did fine with stock tires. Jeep is not going to upgrade the tires for me and my 200 other enthusiasts on this forum brave enough to risk trashing their 40,000 SUV.
Jeep credibility is one of the issues with their tire choice for the off road package. The tire, as standard on the Limited, is called an all season. The exact same tire was described on my Trail Rated Overland as an on/off road tire. If they weren't trying to fool people they would use the same description for the same tire. Michelin says it was designed for highway use.

If a person pays extra for an off road package, they deserve off road components, not a line of BS from Jeep. I called customer service about it when I first got my Jeep. I was told that I should go to my dealer and he would check that I got the correct tires.



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Jeep credibility is one of the issues with their tire choice for the off road package. The tire, as standard on the Limited, is called an all season. The exact same tire was described on my Trail Rated Overland as an on/off road tire. If they weren't trying to fool people they would use the same description for the same tire. Michelin says it was designed for highway use.

If a person pays extra for an off road package, they deserve off road components, not a line of BS from Jeep. I called customer service about it when I first got my Jeep. I was told that I should go to my dealer and he would check that I got the correct tires.


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The Latitudes are on/off road. Your garage is off the road.
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The Latitudes are on/off road. Your garage is off the road.
When did you start working for Jeep Public Relations?

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The Silent Armors and the new Wrangler ATs are hardly what I would call "an aggressive off-road tire" and the Adventures have actually out-performed the sad Forteras in every aspect so far, but mainly the on road handling and reduced road noise, which is definitely not something ATs are known for. They are actually described as for those who spend 80% of their time on road and the rest off. So I think Jeep could've done every single WK2 owner a favor and ditched the Forteras and Latitudes for these, regardless if they ever see any off road situations.

Just saying.

*I was also lucky enough to swap out my stockers (even 4,000 miles in) with the Adventures because they weren't passing the road balancing tests and were ruled imperfectly round. So Goodyear covered the cost and I only paid for the mounting and balancing of the new set. Not that I even should of had to pay for that, but I was grateful to be rid of the weaker "on road/off road capable" tires my ORA1 package came with.
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They are far from aggressive. They actually ride as smooth, if not smoother, than the Latitudes which came stock with the ORA package. I had Duratracs on my last truck and while even those weren't considered too aggressive, you could definitely feel a slight hum and firmer ride. Not seeing either of those issues with the AT adventures. Aside from providing better sidewall protection, the kevlar also helps with the ride.

I ran them all throughout this monster winter we've had and they were phenomenal. I have always tried to run ATs all year long rather than switching off between dedicated snow tires and the minivan tires usually included stock on most modern SUVs. Shame on Jeep for trying to pull one over on the people who ordered ORA...

I only lost about $400 swapping mine out all said and done once I sold the stock tires, so it wasn't horrible. I just expected more from a Jeep.
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They are far from aggressive. They actually ride as smooth, if not smoother, than the Latitudes which came stock with the ORA package. I had Duratracs on my last truck and while even those weren't considered too aggressive, you could definitely feel a slight hum and firmer ride. Not seeing either of those issues with the AT adventures. Aside from providing better sidewall protection, the kevlar also helps with the ride.

I ran them all throughout this monster winter we've had and they were phenomenal. I have always tried to run ATs all year long rather than switching off between dedicated snow tires and the minivan tires usually included stock on most modern SUVs. Shame on Jeep for trying to pull one over on the people who ordered ORA...

I only lost about $400 swapping mine out all said and done once I sold the stock tires, so it wasn't horrible. I just expected more from a Jeep.
Glad to hear someone else is appreciating them as much as I am. They really seem like a great tire and have performed flawlessly so far. And they look pretty damn good too!
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