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But what does the Heavy Duty Cooling kit contain: a larger core radiator? Lower temp thermostat? Higher flow water pump? Tranny oil cooler? Engine oil cooler? Or just blue hoses rather than black?
The Jeep site does indicate a higher capacity electric fan (850 watts) and a slightly higher coolant capacity (.6 quarts on the 2013). It seems there should be more to it such as engine oil cooler, trans cooler, etc.

Hopefully, bill_de will get the answer for us.
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I'll add to this:

CAUTION!
Driving with a hot cooling system could damage
your vehicle. If the temperature gauge reads HOT
(H), pull over and stop the vehicle. Idle the vehicle
with the air conditioner turned off until the pointer
drops back into the normal range. If the pointer
remains on HOT (H), and you hear continuous
chimes, turn the engine off immediately and call for
service.

Cooling System
To reduce potential for engine and transmission overheating,
take the following actions:
− City Driving
When stopped for short periods of time, shift the transmission
into NEUTRAL and increase engine idle speed.
− Highway Driving
Reduce speed.
Air Conditioning
Turn off temporarily.

Let me repost what I said in post # 32 of this thread; cut, pasted, & unedited except for the bold letters......

One more thing if your running a coolant temp. of 220* plus and the cooling fans are all on and the coolant temp. doesn't go down you have a problem with your cooling system. It obviously isn't working as desiged, and turning off the A/C and or turning on the heat would be the correct thing to do to lower the coolant temps. as much as possible before you bring it in to get looked at!

Same advise as given in the trusty Jeep Owners manual!!

I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT AN OVERHEATED VEHICLE OR ONE WITH A COOLING SYSTEM THAT ISN'T WORKING AS DESIGNED!!

Still haven't tried my real world test with your Summit in your driveway??

Or maybe you have, and you can't bring yourself to post your findings!

You can cut and paste all you want for the Owners manual from the "If Your Engine Overheats Section" that doesn't change the facts I have posted, nor will it change the incorrect assumptions you have posted on how you think the cooling system of your Summit actually works!
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Re: To hot

Remember your original post on this topic?

Here it is:

"Really don't want to get in the middle of this........ but if you turn the A/C on while sitting in an idling WK2 that has coolant temps at 220*+ the fans will immediately turn on and the coolant temperature will decrease! Thats the way your WK2 works, as designed by the engineers who built it.

If you don't believe me, go out and try it in your driveway. "

All I ever said was this is not true because the fan will already be on at 220*+. Your real world test is not possible with a properly functioning cooling system.

I wasn't attacking you or anything like that. It's nothing personal. I simply corrected the misinformation. Isn't that what these forums are all about?

Bottom line: if your WK2 is running hot (220*+), Turn off the A-C. Do not turn on the A-C.
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Oh yeah if I come across cranky sometimes, it's because I've been married to the same women for almost 40 years. I find myself cranky most of the time.
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Remember your original post on this topic?

Here it is:

"Really don't want to get in the middle of this........ but if you turn the A/C on while sitting in an idling WK2 that has coolant temps at 220*+ the fans will immediately turn on and the coolant temperature will decrease! Thats the way your WK2 works, as designed by the engineers who built it.

If you don't believe me, go out and try it in your driveway. "

All I ever said was this is not true because the fan will already be on at 220*+. Your real world test is not possible with a properly functioning cooling system. YES I KNOW WHAT YOU SAID & IT"S WRONG!!!

For the third time in this thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOUR FANS WILL NOT BE ON UNTIL ABOUT ~ 225*
TRY IT......Enlighten yourself.... STOP THE IGNORANCE!!!!!!!!!!!! EVEN WITH A PROPERLY FUNCTIONING COOLING SYSTEM!!!! TRY IT!! TRY IT!! TRY IT!! GET THE MESSAGE!!

I wasn't attacking you or anything like that. It's nothing personal. I simply corrected the misinformation. Isn't that what these forums are all about?

Bottom line: if your WK2 is running hot (220*+), Turn off the A-C. Do not turn on the A-C.
The misinformation posted in this thread HAS BEEN POSTED BY YOU!!!!!!!!!!
The assumptions on how you think a WK2 cooling system works are incorrect! The temps wouldn't get to 220*+ in an idling WK2 if the fans were already on!! They are not on until the coolant temps reach ~ 225*! By turning on the A/C you're activated the fans manually to immediately start lowering your coolant temps.

Again for the last time, put your butt in your Summit, in your driveway, pop the hood, set your EVIC to coolant temp, do my real world test & tell me who has posted misinformation! Enough already!!
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Try putting your head under the hood of your Summit, instead of banging it against an imaginary wall, and watch your incorrect assumptions go up in smoke like that dope you must be smoking!

What have you got to lose?

Possibly your credibility!!

It's OK to admit it when your wrong.... we all are sometimes!
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For the first time ever, I just utilized the ignore member list. I can't keep beating my head against the wall while trying to talk to a teenager.
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For the first time ever, I just utilized the ignore member list. I can't keep beating my head against the wall while trying to talk to a teenager.
Teenager? I wish..... middle aged with a bachelors in Engineering.

Either way.......with all the fibers in my being. THANK YOU!!!!!! I couldn't be more happy that you have chosen to ignore me, as well as the facts!
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in what situation would you have a car idling for 30-40 minutes in a driveway?
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in what situation would you have a car idling for 30-40 minutes in a driveway?
Good question.

I find myself sitting in an idling car, when it's either very hot or very cold out waaaay to often. Some thing to do with work. Don't ask.

I found myself playing with the EVIC on my 2012 Summit, and watching the oil, coolant, and tranny temps during this down time. Hence..... why I can tell you exactly how hot the coolant will get before the cooling system controls turn the fans on, and at what temps the fans will turn off again. I have noted the exact coolant temps at which this occurs. I have also manually turned the fans on to lower my coolant temps. by hitting the A/C button many times as I have described in this thread.
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You don't need it to idle 30 min but 5 to prove Raptors (and mine since I claimed it first) statement
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