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Old 09-29-2010, 04:36 PM
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Re: Torn between the Jeep Grand Cherokee and a.....

Our initial choice was the Buick Enclave, tempting mainly for long trips to the Midwest. But my wife was uncomfortable with the size, and neither of us liked the unfavorable comparison with mud-and-snow performance we're used to with our existing GC. Actually the Enclave is quite decent, but looks awfully generic from the side, and GM hasn't freshened it since it was introduced in 2007; indeed, each year they have been decontenting it while raising the price!

We also looked over the nice-handling Audi Q5, but the soulless interior and, to us, bland exterior just killed it, along with the same mud/snow issues as with the Enclave. My wife, a foot shorter than me, liked the size, but I figure we'll all be forced into these smaller boxes soon enough, compliments of our all-wise, all-knowing federal government. So, in the interim I'd like to drive something that doesn't fit into a doghouse.

We looked over a number of others, but didn't bother to test drive. Then the WK2 finally materialized -- end of discussion. An Overland is definitely in our future, the only question is whether we order around December or wait until the new box and other goodies appear next September.
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Old 09-29-2010, 05:03 PM
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Re: Torn between the Jeep Grand Cherokee and a.....

There never really was any question as to what my next vehicle was going to be since the day Chrysler unveiled the 2011 body style. I was sold a looooong time ago.

I did a little looking on ebay though and the suv's i like as much or more than the overland all cost 10k more, minimum. and all were used with too many miles. To me it was an easy choice, a choice I made over a year ago. A choice I'm 100% happy I made. What can I say? I love Jeep.....
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I'm a huge 4runner fan. Was going to put an offer on one but decided to go next door to take a look since the marketing and magazine reviews for the 2011 GC was pretty good..

Needless to say I was impressed and still cant believe I put in an order for an American car let alone a Chrysler.
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Re: Torn between the Jeep Grand Cherokee and a.....

Echoing the others here, really enjoyed reading this thread.
Interesting to see your thoughts on the Toyota product, as here in Australia they are easily the biggest selling 4WD brand (not the 4-Runner, we don't get it here), despite being about 20 to 30% more expensive than comparable vehicles.
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Wow. Great read and review. I went through an almost exact list!

I liked ford so much I bought stock since I think they are really turning thier brand around.

Nice product, but the interior of the WK2 is what sold me. In fact, it's the only reason I never bought a Jeep in that past. Finally I could justify spending my had earned cash on somthing that looked as good on the inside as it did in performacne and exterior looks.

Way to go Jeep!
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congratulations that is one fine list you have gone down through to end up buying the Overland !!! Way to go and welcome
Thanks! This is an awesome site filled with a ton of great information. Hopefully this thread helps those on the fence get a Jeep - it's my first one and I can't wait to take delivery of this bad boy and be a part of the Jeep family!! A few people mentioned this but forgot in my originaly post - it just felt good to buy American.

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Have you ever used an in-dash touch navigation unit? I like the MyGig in my WK1, but I find using the touch screen a little difficult while driving. The suspension reacting to road variations cause your body/arm/finger to move around while attempting to push the virtual buttons. I can see the benefit to Audi/BMW style input.
I could see how on a bumpy road entering info into a touch screen could be an issue, but most of these navs require you to be parked. And at least in the case of Audi, you had like a rotory dial to enter in all information, imagine having to put in a 3 or 4 digit address by spinning this dial around along with having to spell out the address that way. Maybe I'm just short on patience, but for me, if I'm dropping almost $50K - I need better tech....just saying.

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You mentioned that the Infiniti FX was quite luxurious, and I'm sure the Audi and BMW were in that category as well. How would you say interior quality/soft touch materials compared to the overland?
On interior fit and finish alone, based on my impressions from at least two separate test drives each, I would rank them Infiniti 1a, Audi 1b, Jeep 2, BMW 3 (the bimmer was 2008). The Infiniti takes it because it had sporty leather seating, paddle shifters and the dash was just impressive/sexy looking. You take out your wife, a date, or a client, they know they are sitting in luxury and have to be impressed. The Audi is a 1b just because it's not as "loud" - in other words, it has an understated quality to it. You could easily swap these positions, and Audi is typically known for its interior quality. I'm usually not a fan of wood on the interior but for whatever reason the Jeep's didn't bother me, and I liked the fact that on the Overland it is supposedly real. I honestly think the most impressive feature on the Overland is that nice stearing wheel, it felt like I was steering something grand. The silver center stack could probably be a little cleaned up, it's a little bland, and is what keeps this out of the 1c group. The leather piping on the seats I thought was also a really nice touch. I'm probaby not giving the BMW a fair shake since i wasn't test driving them with this review in mind, but nothing really stood out on that vehicle, so it falls to 3rd.

If you also include technology in with fit and finish, the Jeep swaps places with the Audi easily.
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On interior fit and finish alone, based on my impressions from at least two separate test drives each, I would rank them Infiniti 1a, Audi 1b, Jeep 2, BMW 3 (the bimmer was 2008). The Infiniti takes it because it had sporty leather seating, paddle shifters and the dash was just impressive/sexy looking. You take out your wife, a date, or a client, they know they are sitting in luxury and have to be impressed. The Audi is a 1b just because it's not as "loud" - in other words, it has an understated quality to it. You could easily swap these positions, and Audi is typically known for its interior quality. I'm usually not a fan of wood on the interior but for whatever reason the Jeep's didn't bother me, and I liked the fact that on the Overland it is supposedly real. I honestly think the most impressive feature on the Overland is that nice stearing wheel, it felt like I was steering something grand. The silver center stack could probably be a little cleaned up, it's a little bland, and is what keeps this out of the 1c group. The leather piping on the seats I thought was also a really nice touch. I'm probaby not giving the BMW a fair shake since i wasn't test driving them with this review in mind, but nothing really stood out on that vehicle, so it falls to 3rd.

If you also include technology in with fit and finish, the Jeep swaps places with the Audi easily.
Great info, thanks!

I'm surprised how close the Overland is (luxury wise) compared to more expensive SUVs such as the X5 and Range Rover Sport ($15-20k when similarly optioned).
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Congratulations. Surprised you didn't mention a Pilot, even though Honda is definitely not tip top of the line. But one thing that eliminated some of the ones you mentioned for me was lack of interior storage space for stuff. Yeah, they all have center consoles, but those are usually not so convenient. The Pilot did offer more storage AND rear flipper glass, which is now absent from the new and improved 2011 Explorer, go figure. Anyway, with milage the same for both the WK2 and Pilot Touring, went with the one that felt better.
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I would like to know what vehicles can compete with the Jeep Grand Cherokee in the snow? Maybe Cayenne and Toureg only?

Does anyone know how good a 2011 Cayenne without the lift suspension is in the snow?
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I realize this is an older thread but what amazes me about it is the comments from many of the Members here. The JGC is mentioned as a luxury, everyday type vehicle with almost no mention of it's amazing off road abilities, for the most part. I think it is a fabulous tribute (over 100,000 sold) to Jeep for producing this great vehicle and having it find a more mainstream fan base. No matter how you feel about the Daimler Benz relationship with Chrysler, without that it would not have been made in it's current form. And from my perspective, that would be very sad. (I for one bought it because of it's off road abilites by the way, the other stuff is just icing on the cake!) I'll step down now thanks.
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If you also include technology in with fit and finish, the Jeep swaps places with the Audi easily.
Great read, the funny thing is I did almost the exact same thing with the same list of SUVs and of course ended up with a V8 Overland. I also agree 100% on the Q5, I loved the look and the syling, however they just did not have enough cool technology in the cabin. They aren't even using a touch screen and are still using the scroll wheel down near the center stick to navigate the system.

Latly for us, we already have one crossover suv for my wife and she was insistant that here in Colorado, while you dont have to have a true off road truck, she really wanted us to have one in the family for the 1 time a year when you just really need it !
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I was planning on getting a Ford Raptor but with a baby on the way I wanted something a little more comfortable. We looked at a Cayenne S and were underwelmed by the power and price, looked at an X5 and liked it but for the options it was still too much. So we drove the new Jeep Overland and were blown away by how nice it drove and how sporty it was and for the price you can't beat it. Also after owning a trouble free Grand Cherokee SRT8 I hope I have as good of luck with the new Jeep, should be here soon.
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