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I just bought a 2014 GC, 5.7L V-8 hemi 4x4 with the factory installed Group IV Towing package. It has a 7200 lb towing capacity.

I am ready to buy a trailer but need to know what weight is safe to pull with my Jeep without damaging the engine/trans etc. Some people have told me that you should never go above 75% of the listed towing capacity. Is that true?

I have my eyes on a 4700 lb dry weight trailer. After loading, I imagine its gross weight will be about 5700 lbs or so. I also will assume that in my Jeep I'll carry about 500 lbs (people +gas+hitch+gear).

So the big question is can the Jeep safely pull itself plus the 5700 lbs of loaded trailer.
Do any forum members tow trailers (in the weight range of mine) with a 5.7L V-8 with the tow package??? Does it work out OK? Does the Jeep overheat or overstress? Can the Jeep pull this load up mountain inclines or just on level roads?

I've been fishing around for this info from the Jeep dealer and the trailer dealership as well but can't get a straight answer. Some say "oh yeah, you should be fine" etc. Especially the trailer dealership who just want to make a sale.
Any definitive answers and advice from personal experience would be tremendously appreciated! I'd like to make the trailer purchase this week.
Thank you.

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Old 09-24-2014, 07:59 AM
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Re: Towing-Desparate for accurate advice!

Never use the owners manual as a guide.

Information from a bunch of strangers (who may or may not own or tow with a Jeep) is always the better choice.


But, if you decide to trust the manufacturer,

1; Don't exceed the 7,200 lb. towing weight

2; Don't exceed the gross vehicle weight for your vehicle, including passengers, cargo, and tongue weight.

3; Read the section in the owners manual on towing, then read it again.


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Re: Towing-Desparate for accurate advice!

Do you think that the manufacturer just makes up an arbitrary number to use as a tow rating? Or do you think they actually put some effort into coming up with a tow rating?

If your vehicle is rated to tow 7200 lbs, then rest assured that you can safely tow 7200 lbs, as long as you realize (which you obviously do) that you need to consider the gross loaded vehicle weight as well.
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Re: Towing-Desparate for accurate advice!

New to the Jeep World, I recently found no help whatsoever when asking about what the Wrangler Sahara 4dr could tow with which package. All answers defied common sense and physics, but I suppose to most layman it sounded good.
Anyway, find out what tongue wt you can have and see if the trailer you want will exceed before loading. Tongue wt will make rear end sag, so getting trailer loaded to avoid exceeding maximum tongue wt is advised.
Go to where you are shopping for a trailer and test it out if they allow. If not, go to someone who really wants to demo his product. I would gather you are looking at a twin axle trailer, as this will absorb most of the weight. After you get into a test run, check how the load effects the vehicles stance, once again, to ensure you don't cause the front of vehicle to raise too much. Next, hit the road and see how the trailer tows at highway speeds. Now, you should realize you will need trailer brakes to assist in stopping this monster following you!!
I'm not trying to come across simple, but I have dealt with trailers for over 30 years, from sales to repair and installing hitches and brakes. Not claiming to be perfect, but rather knowledgeable.
I had a Tundra that would pull the heck out of a loaded trailer, but the truck was only a half ton and had no suspension for the tongue weight I required. Good luck
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Re: Towing-Desparate for accurate advice!

"oh yeah, you should be fine"

LOL - guess you are looking for some sort of specific confirmation. But agree, if under the stated weights (tow and in vehicle) you WILL be fine. As far as if you'll have plenty of power, etc. at 75% you should be fine too.

I see you really are concerned since this is your second post on the matter - asking questions and discussion is the point of this forum so ask away!

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Test "towing" a trailer may alleviate your concerns too as suggested above.

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Re: Towing-Desparate for accurate advice!

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Anyway, find out what tongue wt you can have and see if the trailer you want will exceed before loading. Tongue wt will make rear end sag, so getting trailer loaded to avoid exceeding maximum tongue wt is advised.
Another important determining factor for tongue weight is that it falls between 8 and 10% (Jeep says 10%) of the trailers total weight. If that causes the vehicle to sag, than deal with the tow vehicles suspension, don't lower the weight on the tongue. Unless you want a bouncy ride and the chance the trailer will lift your rear wheels off the ground. But as stated above, never load beyond the rated weight.
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Re: Towing-Desparate for accurate advice!

You will be fine - good general rule of thumb is 10% of trailer weight will be the tongue weight, at 4700x.10 = 470lbs for you to factor into GVW (truck + people + gear + tongue + trailer).

That said, you will probably want to look into getting a weight distribution hitch (WDH) and will definitely need a brake controller - I've seen several people on here speak highly of the Tekonsha P3.
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Re: Towing-Desparate for accurate advice!

We have an 27' Airstream Eddie Bauer that we tow with our '12 GC Overland. Weight is over 6000#, likely more. Haven't driven over scales to find out what we are towing yet.

It has never overheated even going west on 370? out of Death Valley 7% grade I think. Air temps in 70's, air on, temp went to 230, no more. Could only do 45 mph floored, 43 mph was about 60% throttle. That is the only time it couldn't do the speed limit on a grade or very close to the limit.

May we went to N. Carolina and did see 250 oil temps on some grades. Normal oil temps when towing are 220-230.

WDH, sway control, brake controller. Found a controller that has different output levels for high(over 30 mph) and Low(under 30 mph) gave better braking performance. I think the front end should be the same or lower than the rear when the equalizer hitch is set up. Front higher equals unstable towing. Think of a pickup with too much of a load in the box, it wanders!

Make sure your Jeep isn't dog tracking. Ours was and would wander about, not very relaxing. Good alignment and is the trailer still behind us? LOL The dog tracking caused the hitch pin to wear the hole in the receiver oval on one side.

Andy at CanAm trailers in London Ontario is very, very good on what works. Give him a call if you have questions.

Gas milage about 10-11when towing.
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Re: Towing-Desparate for accurate advice!

Forgot that the hitch weight is about 830# with the Airstream. The little pic by "airjeep" shows our TV and trailer.

Also have the ride height at the "sport setting" when setting up the spring bars on the WDH. Press and hold the ride height up and down buttons at the same time for about 10 seconds. The lights will flash when it is in the sport mode setting.
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Re: Towing-Desparate for accurate advice!

I'm towing an Airstream 25' Safari with a '13 GC hemi with the tow package. Also using a Propride WD hitch and a DirectLink brake controller. Tongue weight is 1050#. Use the search function as there are some excellent threads here on towing.
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Re: Towing-Desparate for accurate advice!

Sure, but I would never feel comfortable going long distances. That's just me though others here have.

With that much weight you should be on 1/2 ton truck just my $.02
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