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Re: Towing Small Horse Trailer

My older brother is a service manager. He's going to call some people that work for Mopar and ask what their opinion is.

I'm considering having to trade in my beauty for a truck but I've got to do what I've got to do to tow safely.

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Old 06-09-2015, 01:22 AM
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Re: Towing Small Horse Trailer

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Factory tow, at least on a '14, includes a larger radiator, significantly more powerful fan (with an attached controller instead of the two-speed relay system), and a larger alternator - in part to deal with the higher fan current (60A vs 25A).
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And larger brakes.
...and, if you didn't already have the off road package (1 or 2), you get a full size spare tire. Normally, you get a mini-spare, which is bigger than a doughnut, but smaller than a normal tire.

The towing package also gives you both 4 and 7 pin wiring as well as the harness adapter for trailer brakes. Mine's still in the plastic bag since rental trailers of any size (which is all I use, since it's cheaper than owning for the few times I need one) usually come with tongue pressure activated brakes. The only downside is they're a pain if you have to back up a slope with the loaded trailer.

Personally, without the factory tow package, you couldn't pay me to pull even a single horse with only around 3500 pounds to work with. The last thing you need is brake fade on a steep grade with around 3/4 of a ton of excitable live animal behind you. Horses can be challenging enough to trailer when things don't go wrong.
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...and, if you didn't already have the off road package (1 or 2), you get a full size spare tire. Normally, you get a mini-spare, which is bigger than a doughnut, but smaller than a normal tire.

The towing package also gives you both 4 and 7 pin wiring as well as the harness adapter for trailer brakes. Mine's still in the plastic bag since rental trailers of any size (which is all I use, since it's cheaper than owning for the few times I need one) usually come with tongue pressure activated brakes. The only downside is they're a pain if you have to back up a slope with the loaded trailer.

Personally, without the factory tow package, you couldn't pay me to pull even a single horse with only around 3500 pounds to work with. The last thing you need is brake fade on a steep grade with around 3/4 of a ton of excitable live animal behind you. Horses can be challenging enough to trailer when things don't go wrong.
I just wanted to say thank you to you and everyone for putting mine and my horse's safety first for giving me an honest opinion that was hard to get from parts and service. I think I'm going to have to trade in my lovely GC for a truck and will take a hit from it (depreciation) but whatever I need to do to tow safely.
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Re: Towing Small Horse Trailer

Take it slow, and understand what your life needs both when towing and when not towing. I'm sure there is an answer that will keep both you and the ponies happy and safe.

Do not listen to the horse people who say you need to get an F350 Diesel and then work from there

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Take it slow, and understand what your life needs both when towing and when not towing. I'm sure there is an answer that will keep both you and the ponies happy and safe.

Do not listen to the horse people who say you need to get an F350 Diesel and then work from there

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OP, this is great advise. While your current JGC isn't well suited toward this, you could opt for a more capable JGC with the right trailer. That was why I chose the engine I have (and would have bought the diesel had it been available for the better fuel economy since I put on the miles for business travel) and why I chose a modest trailer to go with it. That said, if you feel that a pickup will be better for your needs, the RAM with the Ecodiesel is a great tow vehicle as well as a nice daily driver. A friend of mine bought one exactly for that...hauled her horse from AZ to FL last year and gets nearly 30mpg on the highway on trips with it. (sans the trailer, of course)
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A GC with tow package installed will do the job fine, and that includes the petrol V6. Sure the diesel and V8 will do the job with greater ease, but the 3.6 will handle your needs fine.
As I mentioned earlier, unlike the US, what you have discussed is the norm here in Australia. I nearly took a photo on Sunday while at a horse show to post here for you to see 60+ SUV with trailers smaller and larger than those we have posted in the pics.
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Re: Towing Small Horse Trailer

One of the biggest things is think about your legal liability also.

If you are aware that the limit is say 3000 pounds (because it didn't come factory tow package) and you knowingly connect a trailer that is loaded to say 4000 pounds (trailer, horse, feed, riding accessories, misc stuff) and you have an accident where someone is seriously injured or killed.
You can and most likely will be involved in an ugly lawsuit and also if someone is killed you will have to live with the guilt that your actions to overload a vehicle may have been the difference between that person walking away or being six feet under.

Not trying to use scare tactics, but please be smart about your decisions. People in the US are so sue happy that they will go after you.

If you love your GC, then trade it in on another GC that has the factory tow package. Problem solved, if yours is in decent shape you should be able to find a dealer to work with you.


BUT, I will say if you are towing (I think you said commuting, which I find odd because I wouldn't tow horses to work) several days each week, (I dont know how many miles per week, average speed, terrain) I would want a larger tow vehicle. I have pulled everything from a motorcycle trailer to a 5th wheel motorhome, livestock trailers all the way up to tandem trailer long haul rig.
The safer you feel towing, the more confident you will be on the roadway, and with respect for physics (in other words don't drive like an idiot) the less likely you will be to have an accident. Its not a drag race to see who can get 4000 pounds to 60mph first, it is about controlling your load in all conditions and making it to your destination.


Hopefully I didn't muddy your decision too much.
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Re: Towing Small Horse Trailer

I seriously looked at options and choices when shopping for a JCG that could tow my recently purchased 17' travel trailer.

Several car sales men (trying to make a fast buck) informed me that any JGC with the added Mopar tow package could handle the job. LIARS

Looking closely at recommended towing features and add/ons the best option was to buy a Limited with a tow package, I went a step further and got the Off Road Adventure II for future off-roading

Here is what comes with the tow package when added to a Limited.

220 Amp Alternator
7 and 4 Pin Wiring Harness
Class IV Receiver Hitch
Delete Rear Tow Hook
Full Size Spare Tire
Heavy Duty Engine Cooling
Rear Load Leveling Suspension
Steel Spare Wheel

That increased the tow capacity to 6200lbs. To keep it safe you should only tow 85% of your capacity or 5270.

The sales scum say you can tow 5000lbs with the Mopar package. BUT THEY ARE WRONG

The maximum capacity of any JGC not equipped with the tow package is only 3500lbs. The following is a quote from the Manual.

"NOTE:
Vehicles not factory equipped with trailer tow package are limited to 3,500 lbs. (350 lbs tongue weight). "

Keeping it safe at 85% you should only haul 2975 lbs. If it were my horse I would not do it with the Mopar package.

Sorry for the long post just wanted to help.
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Re: Towing Small Horse Trailer

Does the 2015 Laredo without the factory tow package come with wiring for the brake controller? I already have a hitch and trailer light connector installed and activated. Just wondering how hard it is to add the brake controller.
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Does the 2015 Laredo without the factory tow package come with wiring for the brake controller? I already have a hitch and trailer light connector installed and activated. Just wondering how hard it is to add the brake controller.
Yes, the plug should be up behind the emergency brake pedal. That said, without factory tow, your vehicle doesn't have the 6200 lb towing limit. It's either 3500 or 5000, depending on "which" manual you read. It's not a good idea to tow a horse trailer with that setup outside of a lightweight Euro trailer with inertial brakes. Factory tow is pretty much required other wise. And the V6 isn't recommended, either, for this application.
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Re: Towing Small Horse Trailer

Thanks, I watched a youtube installation video but they didn't say if the vehicle had the tow package or not. I don't plan on towing any horses, but I might pull a pontoon boat or small camper.
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Ok, my response was based on you asking your question in a thread about towing a small horse trailer.
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