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Old 03-22-2014, 11:29 PM
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Re: Towing thread

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Anyone have a clue what the GCWR of the 2014 JGC V-6 with the tow package is? I can't for the life of me find the answer. The owner's manual makes reference to GCWR but doesn't give an actual number. Nothing on my Jeep's weight data plate on the driver's door. Called Jeep and the rep didn't have the answer and is forwarding my question to the technical department.

Anyone here have a solid number for the GCWR?

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No idea, but couldn't you simply go to a public scale to find out?

Also, when talking about weight, it might be a good idea to include the model, options, etc. as the weight changes depending on the specific Jeep you bought.
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Re: Towing thread

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No idea, but couldn't you simply go to a public scale to find out?

Also, when talking about weight, it might be a good idea to include the model, options, etc. as the weight changes depending on the specific Jeep you bought.
Gross Combined Weight Rating (GCWR, total allowable weight of vehicle + cargo/occupants + weight of trailer with its cargo) is not the same as the Jeep's current weight. Can't find out from the scale. Only from the mfr.
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Re: Towing thread

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Gross Combined Weight Rating (GCWR, total allowable weight of vehicle + cargo/occupants + weight of trailer with its cargo) is not the same as the Jeep's current weight. Can't find out from the scale. Only from the mfr.
I was thinking curb weight, for some reason...

From the available information and using the GCW Calculator I found:
  • Trailer weight for a v6 4x4 is 6200 lbs
  • Max payload for a Limited v6 4x4 is 1270 lbs
  • It appears that Jeep allows 150 lbs per passenger @ 5 passengers = 750 lbs
  • The Base curb weight of a Limited is 4875 lbs
  • Based on this, Max GCWR should be around 13095 lbs.
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Re: Towing thread

Thanks guys!

I did weigh my Jeep and trailer at a commercial (CAT) scale so I know what the entire setup is at. Just curious how much more I have to play with, thus why the GCWR question.

My Jeep's door tag says cargo + passengers to not exceed 1050 pounds. Current weight with me and full fuel is 4980, which is still 1520 below GVWR of 6500. Wondering why it has such a low load capacity when GVWR clearly says a much higher number. Ideas?

And wasn't sure the correct way to calculate GCWR. I would think you would take the Jeep's GVWR of 6500 and add that to the tow capability of 6200, but that seems too easy.
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Old 03-24-2014, 09:07 AM
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Re: Towing thread

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Thanks guys!

I did weigh my Jeep and trailer at a commercial (CAT) scale so I know what the entire setup is at. Just curious how much more I have to play with, thus why the GCWR question.

My Jeep's door tag says cargo + passengers to not exceed 1050 pounds. Current weight with me and full fuel is 4980, which is still 1520 below GVWR of 6500. Wondering why it has such a low load capacity when GVWR clearly says a much higher number. Ideas?

And wasn't sure the correct way to calculate GCWR. I would think you would take the Jeep's GVWR of 6500 and add that to the tow capability of 6200, but that seems too easy.
Don't forget to subtract the trailer tongue weight from the 1050 pound number.
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Gotta do the brakes on my dad's Jeep so mine got tagged in for towing duty.ImageUploadedByJeepGarage1405786412.278880.jpg

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Re: Towing thread

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I pull a 16" bass boat w/ a 75hp 2-Stroke Suzuki with my '12 WK2 w/ the 3.6 Pentastar. It's about 2500-3000lbs wet
How does your V6 Grand Cherokee pull with this weight? I have a overland V6 and we are now looking at towing a pop up camper. Weight will be 3000# on the low end and a 4200# on the high end. Not sure what the V6 would do with this weight. I thought it was rated at 5000#? Any one else have experience towing with a V6 and long distances? Thanks.
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Re: Towing thread

It pulls it pretty well. Really surprised on how well to performs. The only issue is braking. Clearly you can tell that the HD brakes would've definitely helped or even a trailer equipped with brakes would improve stopping power.

As with all towing be safe and ensure you have enough stopping distance.



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It pulls it pretty well. Really surprised on how well to performs. The only issue is braking. Clearly you can tell that the HD brakes would've definitely helped or even a trailer equipped with brakes would improve stopping power.

As with all towing be safe and ensure you have enough stopping distance.



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Thanks, the pop up trailers are double axle with brakes so stopping should be easier on the jeep. My biggest concern is the long distance, The Maine trip is 2400mi round trip from Indiana.
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Re: Towing thread

I have a TrailManor 2720SL that clocks in at about 3800 lbs and my V6 has no problem. Have to be careful to keep the speed under 70, it creeps up on you but normally cruise at about 65 (literally, I set the cruise control and all is good) and giver 17-18 mpg on 87 PON. Oil temp stays under 200F and trans is around 180F with air on and 90 ambient.

Trailer has electric brakes but I had to get a controller, towing package includes all of the wiring but not a controller. Was surprised, the ABS should be able to prode the proper signal.
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padgett, the trailer brake controller uses vehicle motion to proportionally apply braking to the trailer, whether it's an aftermarket unit or an integrated controller. The ABS system is something completely different...it's not just a "signal" that's needed.
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Re: Towing thread

I do have a full size Chevy 1500 4x4 Z71 I could use, but if I go that route I would just jump up to a full size trailer at 7000/7500#.
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