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Most manufacturers require a WDH on any trailer above 5000lbs or 500lb Tongue Weight. !
Jeeps specifies using a WDH for trailer loads over 3500 lbs in the manual. I'm closer to that 5K and will be adding the Anderson WDH when I have the funds.

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Old 01-08-2015, 11:10 AM
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Re: Towing thread

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So, in essence, in the USA Curb weight is quoted as the vehicle with no passengers or luggage in it!!

Yeah....as I said earlier, bloody alchemy is right!
I will double check, but I believe that according to Jeep there is an allowance for a 165 pounds driver.
Edit- I stand corrected! Indeed it does not!

None the less, in my opinion no vehicle should be maxed out for any lengthy towing. If I thought I would be close to towing 7000 lbs then I probably would have gone to a properly equipped half ton pick up.
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Re: Towing thread

One consideration when adding a WDH is that any "weight" reduction from the tongue/rear axle must go somewhere and that is primarily to the trailer.

For tandem axle trailers this can unbalance the axles unless care is taken. For single axle trailers, especially those close to load limits of the tires (see this often), that extra bit may be too much and needs to be taken into account.

Key is to understand that the TV and trailer are a dynamic system and all components must be considered both static and when driving.
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Re: Towing thread

Bought this trailer in December and just took delivery of a 2014 GC, Limited with Luxury 2, ORA 2 with Tow package.

Stock photo only as my trailer is indoors waiting for the snow to melt.

Trailer weighs 3000 empty, bought a Blue Ox SwayPro weight distribution. Break controller not installed at this time.
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Re: Towing thread

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I am towing with a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee V6 - It towed great with the Equalizer 1k/10k w/ Sway Control. Of course you can feel it's back there and it spent more time in 4-6 gear instead of the normal 7th - 8th gear cruising but it handled the hills and grades well. It feels very comfortable so I'm really happy.
What kind of fuel mileage did you get when towing? Thanks.
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Re: Towing thread

We are trying to determine which GC 4wd to get and we would appreciate any advice from those of you who have been towing with yours.

We have a 22 foot (25 ft with the hitch) Jayco 22FB which when loaded with our gear weighs around 5000 lbs, with a tongue weight of around 700 lbs. (We are working on lowering the tongue weight by distributing the load a bit if possible). Two occupants, 230lbs and 120lbs.

I realize the ecodiesel is the best way to go for towing, but we have also been looking at the 6 cyl gas engine due to the lower initial cost, maintenance cost and the availability.

If we end up with the gasser, we don't want to find that we are crawling up the hills here in the Northwest and getting the same 7-8 mpg as we currently get towing with our F250 460 Ford...

Could anyone here please share experience towing with the 6cyl gas engine with a similar load with mpg, speed and other helpful specifics?

Opinions on the gas vs diesel are certainly welcome and appreciated, as we are hoping that some input from those of you who are actually towing would help us to make a more informed decision.

Thanks in advance for any advice and help.

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A load that big the hemi or the diesel is the way to go. I tow a 2011 jayco eagle 256 rks with my 2011 overland hemi. I would consider my TT to be the largest I would tow with the jeep. The power is great. It brakes well. With the air suspension, a weight distributing hitch, sway controlling bars, and brake controller everything works well. Towing I get 8-12 MPG depending on wind and speed. Coolant temps get as high as 230F oil temp 220F tranny temp 200F.
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Re: Towing thread

Bluegrass', I agree with CIEGOS...you need either the Hemi or the EcoDiesel for that kind of load over time. And even there, your JGC will require a Weight Distributing Hitch since you're towing over 3500lbs. A brake controller is also required by law.
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Re: Towing thread

We went through the whole gas (v6 & v8) versus diesel exercise when buying our JGC. Ended up with the Ecodiesel and never regretted it and maintenance costs are realistically just oil and filter changes plus DEF. I do all the regular maintenance and only take it in for any recalls or warranty work. So far, only reflashes and TSB's !

You either like diesels or you don't....we do and it really is the perfect motor for towing, as you are right in the sweet spot of the torque curve on the highway in 8th. Going up grades is a no brainer for the diesel, not so for the V6.

We tow a Lance 1685 TT that weighs 4600lbs loaded with 580lbs TW and use an Andersen WDH and a Tuson Brake Controller.

SWMBO was concerned as this would be her first time towing a Travel Trailer but after a couple of thousand miles, she says she doesn't even know its there and she LOVES the diesel motor.

The V6 would NOT be my recommendation for your trailer set-up, stick with either the hemi or the diesel. But, in the end, it is whatever fuel floats your boat .

Having had a diesel Class A before, I'm sold on them and the differential between gas and diesel really isn't a financial issue for us. Just having the right tool for the job.....
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Re: Towing thread

My wife and I have a 2014 Diesel and a 2011 Hemi. I tow about 5500 lbs with the Hemi and it does great, even on steep grades. Around 10-11 mpg, but might have slightly less frontal area than you're considering.

I've towed once with the Diesel, didn't even know the trailer was back there. But the Hemi is our primary tow rig.

I wouldn't consider the v6 for what you're looking at doing, especially in the NW.
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Re: Towing thread

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A load that big the hemi or the diesel is the way to go. I tow a 2011 jayco eagle 256 rks with my 2011 overland hemi. I would consider my TT to be the largest I would tow with the jeep. The power is great. It brakes well. With the air suspension, a weight distributing hitch, sway controlling bars, and brake controller everything works well. Towing I get 8-12 MPG depending on wind and speed. Coolant temps get as high as 230F oil temp 220F tranny temp 200F.
Do u use tow mirrors if so from where.

I just bought a jayco x23b and will pick it up in two months
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Re: Towing thread

I have 2014 GC Overland 4x2 with a Hemi. I tow a 2007 Caravelle 237 boat.

The Jeep does a great job towing!

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