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Old 08-29-2013, 09:46 AM
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Re: Towing with a '14 WK2

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-Almost every Tent trailer made now adays has trailer brakes, many with a GVWR well under 3000 pounds.... Further to this, I think you should check State Laws, a few require it by law over 1000 or 1500 pounds, hence most trailer manufacturer don't make them without over 1000 pounds any more would be the closer fact. If your trailer weighs over 1500 pounds and doesn't have brakes on it, don't go to the west coast Towing Laws | BrakeBuddy - Braking systems for motorhomes towing a vehicle
The page that you pointed to is purely for towing vehicles behind other vehicles (i.e. a car behind a camper trailer). For applicable US boat trailer laws, see here: BoatUS - Trailering Magazine - State Trailering Laws

Most states require boat trailer brakes when the weight exceeds 3000 lbs and have speed limits between 55 and 65. They don't list any requirements for additional safety systems.

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Again, I see more people who lost control of their boat trailer than any other recreational towed device.
My guess is that is is because you live in an area, or know people, with high boat ownership. Higher boat ownership means more inexperienced people on the road. Also, just because they have lost control of their vehicle, you don't know what caused them to lose control. It could be due to mechanical problems, driver inexperience, improper trailering (i.e. poor hitch hookup, poor strapping, etc.). The additional trailer safety systems may not have prevented the accidents.

I do agree with certain loads you need additional towing safety systems. That's why it's important to understand your vehicle and trailer limits, make sure the weight distribution is correct for the trailer, understand the law, etc. as you and others have pointed out.

However, with over 30 years of experience towing boats from 1500lbs to 3000lbs, I've never had any problems with loss of control or sway issues. Perhaps it has something to do with me growing up with my dad towing boats. Or, perhaps I've just been lucky ...
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Re: Towing with a '14 WK2

One thing to also keep in mind. That if you don't follow the recommendations by Jeep (agree with them or not) and you do have an accident you might not be covered by your insurance.
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Old 08-29-2013, 10:35 AM
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I can't post all the laws but "camp trailers" over 1500 pounds in many states require trailer brakes...

Here is California, it specifically says camp trailers so maybe boats are the only thing that is excluded. It is definitely not just towing another vehicle.

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/dl648/dl648pt12.htm
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Re: Towing with a '14 WK2

Load leveling, anti sway, etc; yes they all help when towing.

I guess my point was if the WJ had a 6500lb limit with the V8, and didn't require a load leveling hitch until 5000lbs, why would the WK2 need one at 3500lbs? It boggles the mind once you consider the leveling suspension, the longer wheel base, and the sway control that comes with the WK2 and was not on the WJ...
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Load leveling, anti sway, etc; yes they all help when towing.

I guess my point was if the WJ had a 6500lb limit with the V8, and didn't require a load leveling hitch until 5000lbs, why would the WK2 need one at 3500lbs? It boggles the mind once you consider the leveling suspension, the longer wheel base, and the sway control that comes with the WK2 and was not on the WJ...
Weight distribution requirements are effected by rear overhand (ball to axle). So wheelbase is only a piece of the puzzle.

Besides, trailers just drive better with proper WD and sway control so at 3500 pounds if you are going on the highway or any distance why not go the safe route?
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Re: Towing with a '14 WK2

WD Hitches with anti sway features and those that allow use of brake systems are certainly a good idea, as is anything else that makes towing safer. Most auto and truck companies are recommending their use at thresholds below max tow capacity both because they can add a measure of safety and perhaps avoid lawsuits.

That said, I've never needed one and we have put our WK2 through some relatively strong towing outings with no sway, no light front end, nomsagging on the rear axle, and no sketchy moments. As others have said, safe driving, proper hitch procedures, proper tongue weight, and proper loads are equally critical to safe towing. So is good luck.

As for evasive maneuvers, they should be avoided at all costs in either a JGC, or in a vehicle towing anything. Would a WD hitch help cut down on evasive maneuver occurence, or avoid disaster in the event of needing to do evasive acts? Can't say, but given the heavier load of our boat, I will definitely try one.

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Nice Rigs Moose!
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Re: Towing with a '14 WK2

Wow, glad I read this post before I towed my new 68 bronco on a trailer with mine lol. Going to use one of our pickup trucks instead.
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Re: Towing with a '14 WK2

Think about it -- your brakes are designed to stop the your Jeep loaded to is gross vehicle weight rating which is something like 1,000 to 1,300 lbs.

Do you really feel comfortable with your brakes trying to stop 40% more mass?

Our first tent trailer made in the mid 1990s weighed about 2,000 lbs and had electric brakes.


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Reading through the manual, they also say that trailers weighing 1000lbs or more should have their own brakes. In the real world, very few trailers under 3000lbs have their own brakes.

It's clear that the lawyers took over writing the Towing section of the manual. So take it with a grain of salt...

Just to be clear, I'm not saying that you don't need sway control or load leveling with certain trailers. It all depends on what you are towing. The picture that they show in the manual when talking about sway control, etc is of a camper trailer. A camper trailer is more apt to act like a wind sail because of it's boxy shape in comparison to towing a boat, which would let the air flow around it.
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Re: Towing with a '14 WK2

I have a 2015 overland with the V8 and the off road pkg, comes with HD brakes, I an towing a 4500 boat that sits on a tandem axel custom trailer -which has brakes. Do I really need the WD hitch??
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I have a 2015 overland with the V8 and the off road pkg, comes with HD brakes, I an towing a 4500 boat that sits on a tandem axel custom trailer -which has brakes. Do I really need the WD hitch??
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Re: Towing with a '14 WK2

That's a beautiful Cobalt. I have a 22 Four Winns Horizon that I plan to tow behind my 14 Overland with a V8. Just going to be using a regular hitch but only tow 45 minutes on back roads to the lake.

Since you have around the same size boat, anything I should be worried about?
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