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Towing with a Grand Cherokee

I am looking at purchasing a new 2014 Diesel Grand Cherokee Limited for towing a 2 horse trailer. I am concerned that all though the vehicle is rated to tow up to 7400 pounds it will be very taxing on the transmission as I live in a pretty hilly area in PA. The horse trailer fully loaded should be around 6,000 pounds, but keep in mind horses move, and are not the typical standard steady trailer because of this. Also, the Jeep is has a shorter wheel base than other trucks out there used for towing. This will be my everyday car as well as my towing vehicle, so that is why I'm leaning toward the jeep and away from the truck. I know the diesel models are new, but does anybody have any experience towing a horse trailer with them or any insight into this?
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I'm bad at linking to other threads when using my phone but there are several other towing threads and several in the 2014 diesel sub forum specifically. But from what I've read in those and my experience, no you should not have any problems. As per the owners manuel though a weight distribution hitch is required over a certain weight.
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Re: Towing with a Grand Cherokee

You are going to come up against the "you need a one ton dually to tow a small 2h BP trailer" crowd. Get used to it...and ignore it.

That said, you do not want to tow a live load up to your vehicle's limit which I see you already acknowledge. If you choose a trailer with reasonable weight you should be able to keep things in the 5-6K range max and tow just fine. A WDH is a good idea and also recommended by Jeep for loads up in that range. While the JGC wheelbase is "only" about 115", that's still respectable for towing a smaller 2h BP trailer. And the vehicle weight is also up in pick-em-up truck range at about 5300 lbs.

I tow a 2004 Trailers USA Minuteman Sport 2h BP trailer with my 2012 Summit. (Hemi...diesel wasn't available then or I'd be driving one) The trailer weighs about 2200 lbs including the storage I installed. Our horses weight in the neighborhood of 1250 lbs each. So my load is under 5K with both horses. It pulls great. It stops great. (The latter is the most important part) Would I cruise the interstates constantly with this rig? No. But it's great for my needs which are largely local for trips to the horse park, local shows for my daughter and emergency use.

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Re: Towing with a Grand Cherokee

Thank you!! I will definitely order the WDH! That is exactly what I needed to hear!
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Re: Towing with a Grand Cherokee

You'll want a good brake controller, too. I use the Tekonshia P3 (ordered from etrailer.com) and got the Tekonshia plug-n-play cord, too.

Do some research on the WDH before you pick one...some are better than others. I need to do that, too...I've been avoiding it, but alas, it's time to do what's right.
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Re: Towing with a Grand Cherokee

The GC diesel (or Hemi, for that matter) now come with the heavier-duty 8HP70 transmission. This is a strong drive train, and in the Ram 1500 it gets about a 10K lb tow rating with a lower (3.93) rear axle ratio, so you can be confident in it.

As for WD hitch, I would suggest that you consider one with built-in anti sway characteristics. For one, horses move around and tongue weight can change. For another, you never know when you might want to tow something different, and may be glad you have the sway control.

I have used two brands and they are both very good: the Equal-i-zer and the Andersen No-Sway. The Andersen is about 40 lb lighter and functions by tensioning a pair of chains going to a ball shank that rotates inside a tapered opening lined with brake material (making friction that resists sway). The Equal-i-zer uses two square bars sitting on L-brackets that are attached to the trailer frame; this produces friction at the L-brackets (which induces some rasping/popping noises when turning at slow speeds) and at the hitch head.

Some people like the Reese Dual Cam hitch, but it requires drilling holes in the trailer frame and is somewhat finicky to get set up/aligned properly...if it's a little off, it doesn't work right.
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The GC diesel (or Hemi, for that matter) now come with the heavier-duty 8HP70 transmission. This is a strong drive train, and in the Ram 1500 it gets about a 10K lb tow rating with a lower (3.93) rear axle ratio, so you can be confident in it.

As for WD hitch, I would suggest that you consider one with built-in anti sway characteristics. For one, horses move around and tongue weight can change. For another, you never know when you might want to tow something different, and may be glad you have the sway control.

I have used two brands and they are both very good: the Equal-i-zer and the Andersen No-Sway. The Andersen is about 40 lb lighter and functions by tensioning a pair of chains going to a ball shank that rotates inside a tapered opening lined with brake material (making friction that resists sway). The Equal-i-zer uses two square bars sitting on L-brackets that are attached to the trailer frame; this produces friction at the L-brackets (which induces some rasping/popping noises when turning at slow speeds) and at the hitch head.

Some people like the Reese Dual Cam hitch, but it requires drilling holes in the trailer frame and is somewhat finicky to get set up/aligned properly...if it's a little off, it doesn't work right.
Dont want to hijack any ones thread but I was curious about the difference in wdh u mentioned. Specifically the anderson and equalizer. I have been looking at both and was curious about some real world ecperiences with both and the grand.
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Re: Towing with a Grand Cherokee

Don't have my Jeep yet so I can't say I've used them with GC, but I own one of each. The Andersen is less messy, since I was using a bit of grease on the L brackets to quiet them down and I'd end up with grease on hands when dismounting/mounting the bars. Also I think the Andersen mutes the trailer 'jiggle' more because the bushings act like little shock absorbers, whereas the Equal-i-zer's bars have no 'give' in them. Either one will do the job they're designed to do, though.

I bought the Equal-i-zer for use with a Merc Mountaineer and 23' travel trailer. Now that I have been using the Highlander and have just a little 16' travel trailer, the 10k bars on the Equal-i-zer would have been too much. I got the Andersen really to help the ride quality (stop the jiggle and porpoising). It's about the same amount of time to hook/unhook for either one, but the Andersen sure is easier to deal with from a weight and cleanliness standpoint.
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Re: Towing with a Grand Cherokee

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The GC diesel (or Hemi, for that matter) now come with the heavier-duty 8HP70 transmission. This is a strong drive train, and in the Ram 1500 it gets about a 10K lb tow rating with a lower (3.93) rear axle ratio, so you can be confident in it.
That is exactly what I was going to say.
A lot of things go into a tow rating- brakes, wheelbase, engine, cooling options, etc. My guess is the wheelbase is what limits our GC's vs. the Ram. I can't imagine they would use different brakes (supplier streamlining) and such.
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Re: Towing with a Grand Cherokee

I tow my jeep scrambler behind my 2012 Hemi pretty regularly, it weighs about 5500 with trailer and Jeep. No issues on power or stopping, sway can be an issue over 70 mph. A good WDH should resolve any of these issues.
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