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I currently tow a Viewfinder Signature 27RBSS with a Durango and previously with the ML320 Bluetec. I was drawn into the Jeep for this purpose of towing but fell in love with the Jeep in the process

My trailer is 7180 at the scales loaded (confirmed at Cat Scales trailer off)

Tows like a dream. I will test with a Summit HEMI next weekend and let you know what the differences are.
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I currently tow a Viewfinder Signature 27RBSS with a Durango and previously with the ML320 Bluetec. I was drawn into the Jeep for this purpose of towing but fell in love with the Jeep in the process

My trailer is 7180 at the scales loaded (confirmed at Cat Scales trailer off)

Tows like a dream. I will test with a Summit HEMI next weekend and let you know what the differences are.
That's a nice TT! Thanks for the info. I would love to know how the HEMI pulls your trailer. I would imagine that the CRD would be the same or better!
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That's a nice TT! Thanks for the info. I would love to know how the HEMI pulls your trailer. I would imagine that the CRD would be the same or better!
It will do better because the ML320 which was a lower horsepower and torque of the Jeep towed it better.

I tested with the RAM on an 8 hour round trip too. I go every other weekend and have tried many vehicles so please feel free to ask away.

I use the equalizer combination WD and Sway control.
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It will do better because the ML320 which was a lower horsepower and torque of the Jeep towed it better.

I tested with the RAM on an 8 hour round trip too. I go every other weekend and have tried many vehicles so please feel free to ask away.

I use the equalizer combination WD and Sway control.
Great, thanks! How was the RAM? Did the RAM have the 8 speed transmission? This is a big decision for me bc like I said it has to be able to tow a TT and it will be my daily driver. Was the RAM comfy? Could it be a go everywhere vehicle? I have an hour commute to work. Another plus for the CRD is the better fuel mileage.
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Great, thanks! How was the RAM? Did the RAM have the 8 speed transmission? This is a big decision for me bc like I said it has to be able to tow a TT and it will be my daily driver. Was the RAM comfy? Could it be a go everywhere vehicle? I have an hour commute to work. Another plus for the CRD is the better fuel mileage.
The RAM did not have the 8 speed but if I was purchasing it that would be a requirement. The higher torque and horsepower of the RAM made it have a little better mileage under load than the Durango BUT this is also the reason I struggle to justify it as a daily driver due to daily driver consumption.... HOWEVER because the RAM is cheaper you can buy a lot of gas for that price.

The one thing a gas engine can't do is settle into lower RPMs on slight inclines on the highway with a trailer. The RAM did well but my Mercedes would haul like a champ and stay in 7th gear (top ratio) even under a little load. The ML320 also wouldn't shift down as far on greater inclines. I am pretty sure the Jeep will perform the same but I can test the tranny now as it is still the same with the HEMI.

The other issue I had with the RAM is clients in big cities. Tough to get it underground in a lot of cases. Both were very comfortable on long hauls (comparing to Durango). Bit I will give a run down of the HEMI tow in a little over a week.
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I currently tow a Viewfinder Signature 27RBSS with a Durango and previously with the ML320 Bluetec. I was drawn into the Jeep for this purpose of towing but fell in love with the Jeep in the process

My trailer is 7180 at the scales loaded (confirmed at Cat Scales trailer off)

Tows like a dream. I will test with a Summit HEMI next weekend and let you know what the differences are.

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Just wondering if you were able to test tow your travel trailer with the Summit the weekend? I went and drove an v8 Overland and a v8 6speed trans. RAM this weekend. Of course I loved the Overland; amazing. I did also like the RAM very much. Much more than I expected I would. I will wait for the diesel versions of each then make a final decision.
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Just wondering if you were able to test tow your travel trailer with the Summit the weekend? I went and drove an v8 Overland and a v8 6speed trans. RAM this weekend. Of course I loved the Overland; amazing. I did also like the RAM very much. Much more than I expected I would. I will wait for the diesel versions of each then make a final decision.
By the way, the quality of the 2014 JGC brochure is second to non (for what it's worth). The dealer said the official brochures just came out.
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huh wa.... yo! Here Present.....

I completed my RAM test run and I was pretty pleased. I would still like to do the 8 Speed, not that the 6 didn't do a great job but I think the 8 would be more of a pleasure towing (having driven other vehicles with more ratios).

The RAM actually did about a Mile more per gallon under tow than my Current Durango and I think that is all in horsepower and torque being higher. Of course the around town was slightly worse but again I could eek a couple more miles out of the 8 speed. Ultimately for me the RAM is still a tough sell.... I really liked it and like some have said here I liked it more than I thought I would. My issue as noted is that I drive long distances and spend time in big cities where parking above and below ground makes it tough for me. Price and savings to go RAM though are big and I find I have this argument with myself often .

So this weekend is the JGC tow test and review. I have started some comments on the brake controller etc and I will post some details about that and a comparison with the RAM as that was my goal to compare a fairly heavy haul between a 2013 RAM HEMI and a 2014 JGC Hemi. I will still ultimately likely go Diesel but I depart on Monday for not less than 3.5 hours drive and I will likely report back Tuesday evening.

Here is a link for my Summit Hemi work so far:2014 JGC Brake Controller DIY

I will post a complete review including my comparisons of feel, noise and general comfort between the two as well as notes about fuel economy and transmission performance when I do report back.
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huh wa.... yo! Here Present.....

I completed my RAM test run and I was pretty pleased. I would still like to do the 8 Speed, not that the 6 didn't do a great job but I think the 8 would be more of a pleasure towing (having driven other vehicles with more ratios).

The RAM actually did about a Mile more per gallon under tow than my Current Durango and I think that is all in horsepower and torque being higher. Of course the around town was slightly worse but again I could eek a couple more miles out of the 8 speed. Ultimately for me the RAM is still a tough sell.... I really liked it and like some have said here I liked it more than I thought I would. My issue as noted is that I drive long distances and spend time in big cities where parking above and below ground makes it tough for me. Price and savings to go RAM though are big and I find I have this argument with myself often .

So this weekend is the JGC tow test and review. I have started some comments on the brake controller etc and I will post some details about that and a comparison with the RAM as that was my goal to compare a fairly heavy haul between a 2013 RAM HEMI and a 2014 JGC Hemi. I will still ultimately likely go Diesel but I depart on Monday for not less than 3.5 hours drive and I will likely report back Tuesday evening.

Here is a link for my Summit Hemi work so far:2014 JGC Brake Controller DIY

I will post a complete review including my comparisons of feel, noise and general comfort between the two as well as notes about fuel economy and transmission performance when I do report back.

Fantastic stuff! Can't wait to read your write-up! I did notice that the 2014 JGC brochure lists a trailer lenth max of 30' under the tow capacity specs. I may have to rethink TT if I go JGC; the one I have my eye on is just a hair under 32' (not sure 2' makes a difference but....)
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Fantastic stuff! Can't wait to read your write-up! I did notice that the 2014 JGC brochure lists a trailer lenth max of 30' under the tow capacity specs. I may have to rethink TT if I go JGC; the one I have my eye on is just a hair under 32' (not sure 2' makes a difference but....)
It doesn't .... will talk soon.
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I am pleasantly supprised with my 2013 overland. I pulled a 4200 lb truck on a 2900 lb trailer plus family stuff from houston to fort sill Ok. It pulled it with no issues. Rolling hills of north texas was a little tough but no issues. Truck ran on temp. Trans went up about 10-15 degrees more but other than that. No issues. 7100+ lbs and still going. A little over 420 miles. Average speen 65-70. MPG went down to 11.5 but other than that perfect.
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Hi, all, - also paging Willx possibly?,

Not sure if this is the right place, - but here goes. If you are using an equalizer hitch setup (whiich I believe the 14 GC manual says is required for a trailer over 3500 lbs), is there a correct procedure for using it with the Overland which I have on order and of course has the load levelling air system. I am very familiar with them on steel spring suspension vehicles, but it seems to me that the air and equalizer would fight each other? When I inquired locally, one hitch shop says I need a special equalizer setup, one said that the air should be disabled when towing and using the equalizer I always have used, and the Jeep Dealer shop has not yet responded to the question. Anyone have insight to this? I believe the air systemm can be turned of on the Overland for tire changing, but can the vehicle be driven with it turned off if that is the right answer at all? Any help or redirection greatly appreciated!!!
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