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Old 10-17-2016, 03:42 PM
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Re: Traded a '16 Summit V6 for a '17 Summit 5.7L V8

And for the OP- good for you. I drove my '14 Overland 5.7l for nearly 60,000 miles and LOVED IT!!! I did add the DiabloSport tuner and a Volant CAI to it for a bit more growl, and the opportunity to run different times. Still have the airbox if you want it cheap...
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Re: Traded a '16 Summit V6 for a '17 Summit 5.7L V8

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I wonder why it's so bad for you. I'm getting 20mpg without ever touching a highway. Basically 3-4mpg better than my V8. Not huge difference, but enough to notice at the pump.
I'm trying to figure that out myself. My last 5 fills from newest to oldest are 16.85, 16.90, 18.60, 16.17, and 15.69. The 18.60 included a 100 mile each way trip out of town. I don't think I'm on the throttle that much and average just shy of 20 mpg in a 5.4L V8 4-door AMG car doing the exact same commute (91+ octane).

My daily commute is 9.7 miles each way, 6.4 of which is highway at 65 mph.
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Re: Traded a '16 Summit V6 for a '17 Summit 5.7L V8

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I'm trying to figure that out myself. My last 5 fills from newest to oldest are 16.85, 16.90, 18.60, 16.17, and 15.69. The 18.60 included a 100 mile each way trip out of town. I don't think I'm on the throttle that much and average just shy of 20 mpg in a 5.4L V8 4-door AMG car doing the exact same commute (91+ octane).



My daily commute is 9.7 miles each way, 6.4 of which is highway at 65 mph.


I'm gonna guess your commute is short enough that you're not really getting the engine up to temp before the halfway mark, and that's hurting your mpg
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Re: Traded a '16 Summit V6 for a '17 Summit 5.7L V8

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I would assume it's the $4500 or so to upgrade to the 5.7
The 5.7 V8 option is $3795.00. (msrp)
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Re: Traded a '16 Summit V6 for a '17 Summit 5.7L V8

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Wasn't it your Summit the one that was held up for quite a while for a 100% quality audit?


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Yes sir, 104 days after it came off the line to be exact.
104 days?? Either it took them that long to fix all the quality issues or they detailed it using a toothbrush
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Old 10-18-2016, 10:33 AM
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Re: Traded a '16 Summit V6 for a '17 Summit 5.7L V8

The '14 refresh included a change in the electrical architecture, everything going through the uconnect, etc. The first run had incorrect electrical connectors, the there was a problem with loose grounds and a bunch of other things. They essentially ripped the car apart and rebuilt it by hand in one spot in the factory.

The good thing is I have essentially a hand built car that has had zero problems outside of a new water pump. The teething pains for some in that first 6 months were terrible. I will gladly take the last model year of the WK2 which I love rather than the first iteration of the Feep or Jiat or whatever we're going to call it.
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Old 10-18-2016, 02:49 PM
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Re: Traded a '16 Summit V6 for a '17 Summit 5.7L V8

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No regrets going from '14 Summit V8 to '15 High Altitude V6. I know this topic has been brought up many times and they usually turn into a pissing match, but like others have said it's all just personal preference and there are benefits to each. When I first test drove the V6 I was actually impressed. Not entirely by the performance of the engine, but by the handling and feel. My Summit V8 felt like a heavy barge. The V6 felt much lighter and I liked the steering feel a lot more. That may have changed now though that even the V8 gets the electric steering.
I have a different opinion about responsiveness than another poster in this thread. One thing that drove me nuts in my V8 was the throttle lag. Pleasantly surprised that the V6 is more responsive as far as that goes. I actually had a couple scary situations where my Summit V8 just did not go when I needed it to go.
Acceleration wise, obviously the V8 is the winner, but not huge differences. I think a drag race between the two would give the V8 a couple car lengths.
Fuel economy wise, I have logged just about 7,000 miles in both with the exact same commute using my fuely app. To date my V6 is exactly 4mpg better in my far suburban driving.
My biggest complaint about the V6 is the sound. Somehow Chrysler did not make it a pleasant engine to listen to whatsoever. The good news is during normal acceleration and cruise it's very quiet, infact more so than the V8, but inside the cabin it's kind of a rackety sounding engine during acceleration. The V8 is absolute music to my ears and I won't forget that great sound.
I don't know how other manufacturers make a sweet sounding V6, but our Pentestar sounds kinda goofy. Honda/Acura has a nice sounding motor. When I lay into my wife's 3.5 liter V6 Honda Odyssey it sounds actually damn good.

Again, no regrets with my V6. It does everything I need it to do just fine. With all that said I'll probably get another V8 some day hahah
I agree with everything you say. The V6 does feel lighter. We actually drove a rental '15 Limited 4x4 w/V6 last year all over Wyoming and I commented how I thought the engine and tranny combo would be fine--one reason I didn't even bother test driving when shopping this spring. The V6 is just OK to me. However, I don't agree the engine is quieter. When I stomp on the gas the V6 is very raspy--I HATE THAT. Maybe I'll get used to it. The HA is growing on me a little. I still think the front and back lower fascia looks better on the Summit, but I prefer the more rounded bumpers on the Overlands.
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Re: Traded a '16 Summit V6 for a '17 Summit 5.7L V8

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Congratulations OP!



I totally agree with you bill_de. I never even once seriously considered getting a V6 powered WK2. Heck... one of the main reasons I switched from a Toyota 4Runner over to the Jeep Grand Cherokee was Toyota dropping the V8 option in the current 4Runners.

Exactly! I did consider the diesel but the Hemi won that decision. I've had 3 different new Hemi vehicles over the last 3 years and the power and economy for me are perfect.
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Re: Traded a '16 Summit V6 for a '17 Summit 5.7L V8

I had 2 WK2s with the V6 ('12 with the 5 speed, '14 with the 8 speed), my current '16 has the Hemi. When I bought it, I did a dealer order because I wanted a 75th, with the lux package, ORA-II and the V8. Wasn't gonna find it on the lot and figured I'd already had 2 V6's, I wanted something different.

The 6 was great around town, rarely lacking. Where I did find it lacking on occasion is when I had to get on it to pass on the highway. The Hemi doesn't have that problem, which I appreciate. It's also smoother, not that I had any complaints with my '14. I was one of the lucky few I think that never had tranny problems or gremlins on mine, especially with it being a very early build ('14MY built in Feb '13).

All that said, I much rather have the Hemi. More power, more fun stomping on it around town, better sounding. Gas mileage isn't much different so I don't care about that. Kinda like going from my GSX-R600 to my GSX-R1000. The 600 was fun, plenty of oomph for my riding style...but the 1000 is a whole different beast on a frame that's only 36lbs heavier.
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Re: Traded a '16 Summit V6 for a '17 Summit 5.7L V8

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I had 2 WK2s with the V6 ('12 with the 5 speed, '14 with the 8 speed), my current '16 has the Hemi. When I bought it, I did a dealer order because I wanted a 75th, with the lux package, ORA-II and the V8. Wasn't gonna find it on the lot and figured I'd already had 2 V6's, I wanted something different.

The 6 was great around town, rarely lacking. Where I did find it lacking on occasion is when I had to get on it to pass on the highway. The Hemi doesn't have that problem, which I appreciate. It's also smoother, not that I had any complaints with my '14. I was one of the lucky few I think that never had tranny problems or gremlins on mine, especially with it being a very early build ('14MY built in Feb '13).

All that said, I much rather have the Hemi. More power, more fun stomping on it around town, better sounding. Gas mileage isn't much different so I don't care about that. Kinda like going from my GSX-R600 to my GSX-R1000. The 600 was fun, plenty of oomph for my riding style...but the 1000 is a whole different beast on a frame that's only 36lbs heavier.
Did your insurance go up from the 6 to the hemi? If our Jeep was mine it would have had a V8, but for my wife going 5 miles back and forth to work its more than enough.
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However, I don't agree the engine is quieter. When I stomp on the gas the V6 is very raspy--I HATE THAT. Maybe I'll get used to it. The HA is growing on me a little.
I was mainly talking about normal day to day driving. The interior cabin noise is actually lower when driving the V6 normally. As far as full throttle thats anyone's guess, but its such a rare thing that I don't think it matters anyway. I agree though, the V6 isn't the smoothest sounding thing ever made lol. I wish they designed it to be a little more refined sounding. Outside the exhaust note isn't bad, but inside when you can hear the actual motor its just ehhh.

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The 600 was fun, plenty of oomph for my riding style...but the 1000 is a whole different beast on a frame that's only 36lbs heavier.
Having both I certainly wouldn't call the 5.7 V8 a whole different beast. Lets face it, both the 3.6 and 5.7 Grand Cherokees are the same run of the mill acceleration figures as pretty much any other vehicle out there. Now I think its safe to say the 6.4 SRT is a whole different beast over the 3.6 and 5.7.
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