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Old 10-16-2016, 10:19 AM
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Traded a '16 Summit V6 for a '17 Summit 5.7L V8

Yesterday I traded in my '16 GC Summit V6 for a '17 GC Summit 5.7L Hemi V8. I know it sounds crazy, but: (1) I felt that the V6 was underpowered; (2) the V6 lacked growl, presence, and "umph"; (3) the '17 Summit has lots of new safety and convenience features (self-parking, LDA, etc.) and a nice slight redesign in the front (plus new wheels).

I drove 4 hours to suburban Atlanta to do the deal. I worked the numbers in advance and did all of the negotiating by phone, email, and text. So when I arrived I took a test drive and filled out the paperwork.

The '16 was a Granite Crystal/Sienna California Edition. The '17 is also!

The driving experience is totally different. So anyone who's on the fence about getting the Hemi, GET IT!

No more sluggishness going up hills, no more annoying auto start/stop. And the gas mileage, believe it or not, is comparable to the V6. The ZF 8HP70 transmission is also great.

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Old 10-16-2016, 10:32 AM
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Re: Traded a '16 Summit V6 for a '17 Summit 5.7L V8

Congrats.

I never even considered the V6. I don't think you will regret the upgrade.

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Old 10-16-2016, 11:56 AM
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Re: Traded a '16 Summit V6 for a '17 Summit 5.7L V8

Those new wheels are hideous...lack no style.

Let me re-phrase at least----Congrats on the new purchase but just not a fan of those wheels although I do like the new shifter.
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Re: Traded a '16 Summit V6 for a '17 Summit 5.7L V8

I always find the v6 underpowered comment amusing. If that helps you jusitify the loss you took by trading in a car that's less than one year old then so be it.
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Re: Traded a '16 Summit V6 for a '17 Summit 5.7L V8

Nice looking GC, nice color combo!
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Re: Traded a '16 Summit V6 for a '17 Summit 5.7L V8

Congrats on the 'proper' upgrade. Just out of curiosity, why did you choose the V6 on the 2016...I really don't see any advantage to the V6, and it continuously baffles me why anyone would ever choose it over the V8. You take such a huge loss in power for such a small gain in mileage.

I would love to have the lane sense and self parking from the 2017, but I too hate those wheels.
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Re: Traded a '16 Summit V6 for a '17 Summit 5.7L V8

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Those new wheels are hideous...lack no style.
This, this, and this. The Jeep is beautiful but those wheels have to go.
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Re: Traded a '16 Summit V6 for a '17 Summit 5.7L V8

I don't dislike the wheels. I am soooo tired of 5 spoke wheels. BTW, what grade gas does the V8 use?
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I really don't see any advantage to the V6, and it continuously baffles me why anyone would ever choose it over the V8. You take such a huge loss in power for such a small gain in mileage.
Yeah, that must be why FCA sells so many V8's in the GC.
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I don't dislike the wheels. I am soooo tired of 5 spoke wheels. BTW, what grade gas does the V8 use?
Unless it has changed since I owned my 2014 Summit V8, it is designed to run on either 87 or 89 (regular or mid grade), but mid grade is recommended for optimum performance according to the manual.

Nice new summit OP and congrats! It would look better if you didn't take pics with it sitting in off-road 2 height though
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Re: Traded a '16 Summit V6 for a '17 Summit 5.7L V8

One reason for a V8 is a ZF built transmission.

Two reasons to not buy a V8 is that you are not going to recoup the $3,000+ you pay for it, nor the $.20 a gallon you will pay for the recommended gas.

I doubt the V6 is under powered. I had an MDX with a similarly powered V6 and similar weight with plenty of power.

One more reason for a V8, if you are old enough, you know the HEMI is a classic even as it evolved over time.

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Re: Traded a '16 Summit V6 for a '17 Summit 5.7L V8

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One reason for a V8 is a ZF built transmission.

Two reasons to not buy a V8 is that you are not going to recoup the $3,000+ you pay for it, nor the $.20 a gallon you will pay for the recommended gas.

I doubt the V6 is under powered. I had an MDX with a similarly powered V6 and similar weight with plenty of power.

One more reason for a V8, if you are old enough, you know the HEMI is a classic even as it evolved over time.

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I have a 2015 Summit with the V6 gasser and I've always thought it's under powered since I got it in July of 2015. I have to admit, however, that the hesitation that gives the feeling of being under powered is more likely due to the electronic throttle control than it is the engine itself. Several forum members have told me this in previous posts and I believe they are correct. I know there are devices available to work around this and I'm sure the driving experience would change with one of those units installed.

Your first reason above is one of the reasons why I focused on the V6, as I didn't want to spend the extra at the time but if I was doing it now I would get either the Hemi or the Diesel and realize it's worth the upgrade.
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