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Re: Trailhawk VS Summit

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A lot noise cancellation systems tend to focus on the lower frequencies (rumble, etc.) so it would make sense that there wouldn't be much effect a low or no speed.
Actually Lower speeds == lower frequencies

But at higher speeds they are higher in volume or the frequencies come into range of where our hearing is more sensitive.

Regardless, I tried multiple frequencies into the Mic's with no response. But that was assuming that system is completely Mic driven (many Noise Cancelation Systems are).

If the Mic hears a low or high frequency that it could cancel, why would it need high RPM to confirm.

Why in a Jeep advertising Video are they driving very slowly in the City Past a Jack Hammer and implying that the Active Noise Cancelation would help suppress it?

Does the Active Noise Cancelation only address self induced noise or does it also address external noises, as their video implies?

One other thing it may do is only Mix in cancelation with your Music. And may be proportional to the Volume you are listening at.

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Re: Trailhawk VS Summit

I am curious about why nobody likes the dark interior of the Trailhawk?

I know dark interiors can get hot in the summer, but the ventilated suede center in my Trailhawk keeps my seat really cool.

Is there something else about darker interiors i am missing?


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Re: Trailhawk VS Summit

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I am curious about why nobody likes the dark interior of the Trailhawk?

I know dark interiors can get hot in the summer, but the ventilated suede center in my Trailhawk keeps my seat really cool.

Is there something else about darker interiors i am missing?


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I only buy cars with dark interiors and that includes headliner. Personally light interiors to my eyes are like driving into the sun with no sunglasses. It's the main reason why I didn't buy a WK1 SRT. The early years only came in light gray with dark gray inserts.
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Re: Trailhawk VS Summit

I prefer dark color interiors....almost all of my vehicles had a black interior.
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Re: Trailhawk VS Summit

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I am curious about why nobody likes the dark interior of the Trailhawk?

I know dark interiors can get hot in the summer, but the ventilated suede center in my Trailhawk keeps my seat really cool.

Is there something else about darker interiors i am missing?


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The black interiors add to the interior heat build up when parked. While they don't show grease as much if you or your mechanic gets careless, dust and pollen can get annoying if you leave windows open and don't wipe them down often.

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Re: Trailhawk VS Summit

I prefer to only buy vehicles with lighter interiors. I drive a lot for work and I find the dark interior makes me a bit more drowsy on long drives. Sort of like being in a cave (especially with tint).

This is clearly a very specific and personal reason, but just my two cents
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Re: Trailhawk VS Summit

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I am curious about why nobody likes the dark interior of the Trailhawk?

I know dark interiors can get hot in the summer, but the ventilated suede center in my Trailhawk keeps my seat really cool.

Is there something else about darker interiors i am missing?


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This is purely a subjective thing...personal preference.


I'm the exact opposite of MOFSTEEL...i don't buy dark interiors. Ever. (I even turned down a very attractive deal for something on the lot back in 2012 when I was in the buying mood, purely because of the black interior) My current saddle/black interior really pushed "close to the line" for me and I really dislike the black plastic portions. They are constantly dirty and hard to clean. Our "dirt" dries tan. I'm very thankful that I have the light-colored headliner! My next JGC may have to be an Overland rather than a Summit because of the interior options...I'm certainly not going to pay nearly five grand to get a light colored interior which is the only way to do it on a Summit these days.

For me, a dark interior makes it uninviting, cramped-feeling, etc. And yes, there is a heat component during the summer months that comes into play. While the AC will certainly cool it down, that "dark" absorbs a lot of solar heat when the vehicle is parked and I don't appreciate that.

But yea...personal preference. It's nice to have choices, but with JGC, those choices are limited for lighter interiors for some reason.
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Re: Trailhawk VS Summit

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This is purely a subjective thing...personal preference.


I'm the exact opposite of MOFSTEEL...i don't buy dark interiors. Ever. My current saddle/black interior really pushed "close to the line" for me and I really dislike the black plastic portions. They are constantly dirty and hard to clean. Our "dirt" dries tan. I'm very thankful that I have the light-colored headliner! My next JGC may have to be an Overland rather than a Summit because of the interior options...I'm certainly not going to pay nearly five grand to get a light colored interior which is the only way to do it on a Summit these days.

For me, a dark interior makes it uninviting, cramped-feeling, etc. And yes, there is a heat component during the summer months that comes into play. While the AC will certainly cool it down, that "dark" absorbs a lot of solar heat when the vehicle is parked and I don't appreciate that.

But yea...personal preference. It's nice to have choices, but with JGC, those choices are limited for lighter interiors for some reason.
I agree with Jim, I don't prefer the dark interior, that's what is such a tough choice between these two models for me. I like the light interior but don't like paying $5k for it.
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Re: Trailhawk VS Summit

Yea, especially where you live, 'murica! There's always the Overland loaded out with the light-frost interior...which is probably how I'd go if I was forced to replace my current JGC for some reason. A few Summit-only features would be lost, but most of what I require would be available. For grins, I built one out using the "hidden" 2016 build-and-price and the cost would be similar to a Summit overall; maybe slightly less, depending...
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I agree with Jim, I don't prefer the dark interior, that's what is such a tough choice between these two models for me. I like the light interior but don't like paying $5k for it.
It's only 5g if you pay sticker price. My feeling was that I will pay once, but sit in it every day.

It only hurts a second time when you trade it in and find it doesn't add much, or anything, to the value.

Then again, we only live once.

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Re: Trailhawk VS Summit

The main pain is paying 5g for something that could have been transferred from the overland for free. Bring the Light frost/beige interior into the overland. The only thing that would need to change is the stitching emblem on the seat (which they already do for the black interior).

Instead they charge you 5g more to have a white interior with grandmas quilt stitched in when they could easily bring an already existing interior that people like into the Summit
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Re: Trailhawk VS Summit

I've always had black interior, except for my last GC and I hated it. That's the only reason I got rid of it, I wanted the dark interior again.

I hate how the black plastic controls and the black plastic around the 8" screen look with tan interior. With black, it all looks uniform and more upscale IMO
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