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Re: Train Horn Install - Anyone??

Once I get my GC back from the dealer (heated seat repairs) I'm putting the smaller Wolo air horn (like the GC with the dual horns in the grill) on another button in my GC.
I have the same horn on my bike, installed right after a furniture delivery truck tried to run me off the freeway. He couldn't hear my stock (meep meep) horn on the bike, and was changing lanes by feel as I could clearly see him in his side mirror, he never looked at them.
On the bike its easier to get out of the way of texting drivers, but the air horn wakes them right up!
Going to have the same ability on my Jeep.

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Once I get my GC back from the dealer (heated seat repairs) I'm putting the smaller Wolo air horn (like the GC with the dual horns in the grill) on another button in my GC.
I have the same horn on my bike, installed right after a furniture delivery truck tried to run me off the freeway. He couldn't hear my stock (meep meep) horn on the bike, and was changing lanes by feel as I could clearly see him in his side mirror, he never looked at them.
On the bike its easier to get out of the way of texting drivers, but the air horn wakes them right up!
Going to have the same ability on my Jeep.
The horns are awesome and its not very hard to install them.

Whats wrong with your heated seats? Im having trouble with mine as well. Driver side shuts off after about 10 mins and when i try to put it back on the light on the button comes on for a second and turns off. If i restart the car its back to normal, but only for limited time and the problem happens again.
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Old 03-10-2016, 02:04 PM
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Re: Train Horn Install - Anyone??

The 10 minute shut off is normal, so they don't over heat. It's in my manual that way. Mine have broken elements (probably from overheating), so they have to replace all the elements, bottom and back on both seats.
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The 10 minute shut off is normal, so they don't over heat. It's in my manual that way. Mine have broken elements (probably from overheating), so they have to replace all the elements, bottom and back on both seats.
I have a 2011 my manual says 45 mins on high and then automatically goes to low level and stays there for 55. Passenger side works just as the manual states.
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Old 03-29-2016, 04:57 PM
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Re: Train Horn Install - Anyone??

OK, have been noodling this for a while.

Issue I keep coming up with is: Where do I put a horn button that I will hit from muscle memory when I want to warn someone off?
I keep coming back to the standard horn button in the center of the steering wheel.

But, how many times do I want to just give a little "beep" to tell someone the light is green, or get someones attention outside the Jeep without going for the full on "HEY PAY ATTENTION HERE!" or "other " words to that effect.

So what I came up with is, how about a roughly half second delay of normal horn before the full air horn. That way I can "blip" the horn for that gentle "nudge" or hold it down for "!!!%$#@&!!!". Now how do you do that?

I looked at a lot of designs for delay circuits, thinking I would build something.
Then I found this module on Amazon for an adjustable delayed relay trigger.
Perfect!

I figure I will tie the input to the trigger to one of the normal horns, and the output to trigger the 30 amp relay for the air horns being fed from the battery positive in the engine bay.

Now, I can tap the horn all I want as long as I don't hold it for more than a 1/2 second (or whatever I adjust it to), if longer, the air horn triggers!

Now as soon as I get it, I'll hook it up and test!

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Re: Train Horn Install - Anyone??

Why complicate it? Leave the normal horn on the wheel and add a button to the centre console which is in easy quick reach.

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Why complicate it? Leave the normal horn on the wheel and add a button to the centre console which is in easy quick reach.

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Because if the purpose of the horn is to loudly warn a driver they are about to hit you, you want the button as near to where your hands are as possible - and be as easy to hit as possible. If you can find and hit the button on the console, you probably didn't need to hit it in the first place.

Besides, some people don't want to be installing extra buttons that don't always fit the look of the vehicle.
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Re: Train Horn Install - Anyone??

FWIW, that spot on the console is occupied in '16 models.
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Re: Train Horn Install - Anyone??

Those spots are filled in most of the GC's out there, and that's where I personally would have put Aux lighting switches, if they weren't already used.

As I hinted at and probably should have clarified, in a stressful situation you tend to lose fine motor skills, you rely on muscle memory and training.

When I first started riding a motorcycle I had to think about where the horn button was (under left thumb), I eventually just avoided the situation then hit the horn.

After MANY years of driving I find that muscle memory will have me (and most other drivers) hitting the center of the wheel as a reaction (muscle memory).

That's why Ford had so many issues with the 1980 model year Fox platform, the horn button was the turn signal stalk, you pushed it in towards the steering column to blow the horn. My 1980 T-bird drove me crazy with that stupid move.

Another alternative configuration would be to have the "beep beep" horn on an aux button and the air horn connected to the original wiring.

Would work until I mistakenly "tapped" the center horn button to get someones attention and scared the life out of them and me.
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Re: Train Horn Install - Anyone??

I too want some protection for almost every knuckle head driver who texts and swerves into my lane as I have my newborn baby girl in the back seat. I had a Whelen 100W PA system with electric speaker in my previous JGC. The main component was installed in the storage space under the drivers seat. Separate push button nicely placed into the dash. It sounded okay when driving slowly, but not loud enough on the highway. Looking todo a Wolo bad boy in my current car. Nothing too loud that would scare somebody but enough to get their attention....
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I too want some protection for almost every knuckle head driver who texts and swerves into my lane as I have my newborn baby girl in the back seat. I had a Whelen 100W PA system with electric speaker in my previous JGC. The main component was installed in the storage space under the drivers seat. Separate push button nicely placed into the dash. It sounded okay when driving slowly, but not loud enough on the highway. Looking todo a Wolo bad boy in my current car. Nothing too loud that would scare somebody but enough to get their attention....
I have the same horn installed in line with the 2 OEM horns. It's bad-ass loud! I don't need a separate switch as I want all 3 on when I hammer the center of the steering wheel! I don't use my horns very often, so when I do it's because I want you to wake the faq up or prevent an accident!
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Re: Train Horn Install - Anyone??

Hi, in my case i have a separate button for the train horn, for normal/daily use i have the 2 WOLO installed and they are quite loud, they are in the hooked up to the normal horn place.
The train horn i use it only on special/stupid drivers, or most of the times just when getting to friends house or greeting friends, or that type of social gatherings.
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