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Old 01-20-2011, 05:36 AM
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Funny how they all use that same line: "Even I Have to Pay It"!

Wonder if they teach them that in salesman's school?

I'm gonna look around some more, just to see if the next dealer tells me the same thing. If so, I may end up going back to the first guy, who's DOC fee was $249.00. We'll see.......

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Old 01-20-2011, 12:35 PM
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For what it's worth, my dealer is holding firm on a $399 doc fee even with FFP. My saleswoman says she has to pay when she buys a vehicle from them too.

I decided not to push the point because they are being more than fair, locking in my trade-in (I'm not driving it) while we wait for the GC to be built. Plus they spent a lot of time on the sale - test drives, etc. before I sprung the FFP pricing on them.

Bottom line - I don't need to squeeze those last few dollars out of them. I'm happy with the deal I have, and that's really all that matters.
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Old 01-20-2011, 02:33 PM
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Really........400 bucks for doing some paperwork? I'm still balking at my guys $249.99!
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Really........400 bucks for doing some paperwork? I'm still balking at my guys $249.99!
Lets put it this way ... the other Jeep dealer I talked to wouldn't guarantee a firm value for my trade-in. Considering that a couple of years ago, we ordered a new BMW and waited a couple of months -- when the new BMW arrived, the dealer offered a greatly reduced value (from the original estimate) on our trade-in. So I've been burned before.

Considering that its going to take 8-10 weeks to get the GJC, and the trade-in value was fair (unlike some other dealers), I don't think I should walk from the deal. I asked to remove the $399, but they wouldn't budge. So I decided this is the best deal for me.
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Lets put it this way ... the other Jeep dealer I talked to wouldn't guarantee a firm value for my trade-in. Considering that a couple of years ago, we ordered a new BMW and waited a couple of months -- when the new BMW arrived, the dealer offered a greatly reduced value (from the original estimate) on our trade-in. So I've been burned before.

Considering that its going to take 8-10 weeks to get the GJC, and the trade-in value was fair (unlike some other dealers), I don't think I should walk from the deal. I asked to remove the $399, but they wouldn't budge. So I decided this is the best deal for me.
I agree 100% with your reasoning. The bottom line is what is your bottom line, not the internal details that get you to the bottom line.

All too often people get hung up on a detail and forget the big picture. When I shop I determine what the "NET" price I want to pay is and let the dealer figure out a way to get me there. If that means a $400 fee to do the paperwork but they give me $400 more for my trade then so be it, no skin off my back.

OTOH, since I'm not trading anything my bottom line is the FPP price +$75 +tax & tags. Any more than that and I walk.
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I have a question. Does the person filing out the Tread Lightly membership need to be the same person signing or ordering the car?
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I have a question. Does the person filing out the Tread Lightly membership need to be the same person signing or ordering the car?
FAQ from the Affiliate site:

Q. How many vehicles can I and/or my spouse purchase/lease a year?
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Up to two vehicles per calendar year.

Q. Who else in my family is eligible for the discount?
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Spouses, surviving spouses, and same sex domestic partners recognized by your company’s HR department.


Q. How long is a Control Number valid?
A. For the timeframe noted on the print control number screen.

Q. Is this offer available in combination with current consumer incentives?
A. Yes, in most cases. Check with your dealer for complete details.

Q. How do I find a participating U.S. dealership?
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Click on dodge.com, chrysler.com or jeep.com to locate a dealership near you, then ask if they participate in the Affiliate Rewards Program.

Q. Are there any other fees I should know about?
A. An administration fee of $75 applies to the Affiliate Rewards program.

Q. What do I need to provide to the dealer to receive the Preferred Price?
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Your unique Control Number (generated through this website, or by calling [888] 444-4321) and proof of eligibility, such as your company photo ID badge, current and original pay stub, copy of pension check, W-2 form, marriage license or similar documentation.
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Re: Tread Lightly Questions

My personal experience using TL to order a Summit:
I had two dealers refuse to accept TL program for Overlands or the Summit Edition under the grounds they don't need to accept it and these vehicles are selling at or near full MSRP. I had two dealers gladly accept my control number (after quoting something between Invoice and MSRP) and gave me with 1% below invoice pricing. And I had one dealer from the get go provide a price of $500 below invoice even before I told him about TL. He had no interest in using the TL and that dealer ended up with my business. I placed the order yesterday for a Summit with an MSRP of $47,820 and Invoice of $44,770 for a price of $44,270.
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What I don't understand is why the dealers wouldn't participate in the TL or any affiliate program? I was told by my dealer that the difference between the MSRP and invoice plus the minus 1% is ALL repaid to them from Chrysler (so it’s coming out of Chrysler's hide and not the dealers). If I were a dealer I would be telling customers about the program just to try to convince them to buy the vehicle...I would do this as long as I had vehicles on the lot to sell and even then I would tell customers that were ordering about the affiliate programs this too. The reason being the more vehicles that they sell the more money they can make especially towards the end of the year because Chrysler pays them 2% hold back (I believe its 2% or somewhere around there) on each vehicle they sell that year. As a dealer I may not make money by charging over MSRP but I would make it on the tail end when Chrysler pays the hold back at the end of the year.

Am I missing something here???
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[B]I placed the order yesterday for a Summit with an MSRP of $47,820 and Invoice of $44,770 for a price of $44,270.
Sounds like you did very well, Joe! Although with the $25 purchase of your unused TL membership, your final net price was actually $44,295.

Looking forward to hearing how your WK2 makes its way through the production and delivery process.
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Happy to support such a good cause Chris. I have already assumed the worse on the production and delivery. So I shouldn't be too upset over the next several months!
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Happy to support such a good cause Chris. I have already assumed the worse on the production and delivery. So I shouldn't be too upset over the next several months!
$44,270.00 for a Summit sounds like a great deal. Did that include the $780.00 destination fee? Also, did you dealer charge you a "conveyance" or "DOC" fee, and did the $44,270.00 include that also?
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