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Old 08-26-2011, 01:46 PM
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After 2 months and 2.5k miles of ownership, some observations as to improvements that I would like to see in future models. Some of the comments pertain to my build, being Overland w/ Hemi. The order is not specific to preference or priority.

  • Add a keyless touch sensor to tailgate latch. There shouldn't be a separate button to unlock. Perhaps this is done for glass and tailgate.
  • Add keyless touch sensors to rear doors handles.
  • Audio for 730N, needs an overhaul for the interface, Nav and iPod connection. I shouldn't need to reselect the iPod as preferred device each time power is cycled. Yes there can be a 1-2 minute delay for the iPod to be recognized but give me the option for a default device.
  • Terrain Control, allow for user defined default setting (i.e. Sport vs. Auto).
  • Change the interior lighting color from green to blue, red, or something better. Dash lighting is very good.
  • Better response w/ Hemi. My build date is June 2011 and should have the current TSB's. However the throttle response is lacking. Seems to be programmed for fuel economy.
  • More aggressive exhaust profile. Muted for a V8 with some much advertised torque and HP.
  • One-touch window controls for rear.
Overall I do like the JGC but I would like to see some improvements. Perhaps some will be added in the mid-cycle refresh.




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items in bold are major gripes of mine as well. Every time I go to open the trunk I wish there was a keyless sensor there.

The green interior lighting is awful and does not flow well with the dash lighting. This isn't 1998 .... they really dropped the ball here - especially since [i believe] there is blue lighting in the durango.
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The touch sensors don't bother me too much -- The layout is pretty much the industry standard. And I thought the interior lighting was very well thought out -- I don't care about the color really. And I have never seen a car with auto rear windows. In fact, I think this is a safety feature for pets and kids.
As mentioned in a previous post the one-touch/auto windows are found in the luxury makes like Audi, M-B, BMW, etc and I have it in the past few vehicles. I will put the windows down to allow for extra air when I have the dogs in the cargo area. I believe this is done with a latching relay which would be very inexpensive to add. Not a deal breaker but I would prefer to have it.



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Dag Nabit.. Never noticed this before.. Now that I have, it bothers me.. I Need to stop reading these gripe threads!
Yes, forums can be very beneficial in providing information that otherwise would be difficult to find. However, the flip side is that it can bring to light issues which the casual owner wouldn't care about (say exhaust sound for me). Also there is the potential the discussion around upgrades which translates to less $$$ available for savings/investments. Oh well, back to the Jeep parts catalog.....




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The green interior lighting is awful and does not flow well with the dash lighting. This isn't 1998 .... they really dropped the ball here - especially since [i believe] there is blue lighting in the durango.
Agreed (as noted in my opening post). It's not the location of the accent lighting but purely the color. I didn't test drive the JGC until early June so it was degrees of daylight.

Having owned an Audi, that was a good example of how to use color and location for interior lighting.




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Agreed (as noted in my opening post). It's not the location of the accent lighting but purely the color. I didn't test drive the JGC until early June so it was degrees of daylight.

Having owned an Audi, that was a good example of how to use color and location for interior lighting.




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hard to compare jeep with audi. i've owned a lot of high line cars and none are nicer inside than my audis.

with that being said, i'm pleased by the WK2 interior for the price of the vehicle, other than the green lighting. it just doesn't match the rest of the lighting in the car.
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Re: Tweaks to improve the JGC

I've been in many Audi's and my brother-in-law owns one and they're ok but interiors are always subjective to a point. I've never been that impressed by Audi or BMW for that matter. I find them rather blah. Not saying they aren't nice at all just not that impressed for the price you pay. The nicest interior I've seen in all the cars I've owned and driven is my G37S. With that said, I think the WK2 is very nice and I will agree I'm not a fan of the green either but it doesn't bother me. I'd rather have the Durango blue but it's by no means a deal breaker. The overall value can't be beat when comparing to VW, BMW, Audi, Infiniti, Mercedes, etc.

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hard to compare jeep with audi. i've owned a lot of high line cars and none are nicer inside than my audis.

with that being said, i'm pleased by the WK2 interior for the price of the vehicle, other than the green lighting. it just doesn't match the rest of the lighting in the car.
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The overall value can't be beat when comparing to VW, BMW, Audi, Infiniti, Mercedes, etc.
thats certainly a point for contention. Jeep/Chrysler has come a long way, but the jeep's interior is far from European quality (even in lower end VW's). Not really worthy of an argument here, but there are many points in the Jeep that lower its interior quality value to me.
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But blue would have been better.
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Re: Tweaks to improve the JGC

CHICKEN BITES! I hate them and they hurt like hell. For those that dont know, its when someone pinches you under the arm, or when the door locks go down!. They get me a lot and i always say why the hell didnt i remember that!
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Re: Tweaks to improve the JGC

I really just want better build quality. My Jeep has had a lot of issues ever since I bought it two months ago. I would be willing to give up things like the auto brights, rain sensing wipers and pano-roof for better quality. I guess I wouldn't mind a more up-to-date nav than my RHR, but I've gotten used to it.
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Cabinetman, Boss 302, really nice car! How do you like it? Long-term investment or just a weekend car?

Of the three current generation muscle cars, I feel Ford has the best option. While I haven't test driven one, the Boss 302 has the right ingredients for pure performance at a "reasonable" price (minus dealer availability fee).




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Re: Tweaks to improve the JGC

Hey Gang – Just wanted to get back to everybody with their questions and ideas:

1. Capitalst– I am having second thoughts on the shark fin. J13ntv (in another thread on this site) advises his reception has degraded a lot since he added one. Both J13ntv and I are on Long Island, so I might have to live vicariously through his example. Particularly since the investment is not cheap.

2. 77Cherokee– Thanks for the idea, but the antenna is hitting the door frame. For the time being I have to scramble up the side of the Jeep and remove the antenna in order to get the damn thing in the garage.

3. Hammer1234 – Thanks for the tip on tilting the mirror. Unfortunately the mirror and overhead console do not want to agree with my seating position. I’m trying to figure out how to remove just the sunglass compartment from the overhead console to see if that improves visibility.

4. Celly – Sorry to bring the “reflecting vents” to your attention. Once I figure out how to liberate them from the rest of the dash and paint them flat black. I will let you know.

Right now I’m laying low waiting for Hurricane Irene to hit Long Island. Hope all other jeepgarage members on the east coast are safe and dry.
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