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Old 02-11-2011, 07:52 PM
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Re: Unsure about snow performance

My 2 cents:

They are Winter tires....not snow tires.
They are designed to work in cold weather.

So, the amount of snow is irrelevant....it's the low temperatures that matters.

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Re: Unsure about snow performance

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My 2 cents:

They are Winter tires....not snow tires.
They are designed to work in cold weather.

So, the amount of snow is irrelevant....it's the low temperatures that matters.

+ 1,

That is what I am trying to expalin to all-season lovers here. So, finally I collected all lame arguments against of winter tires:

- They don't last long, I tried them on my VW before
- I am in Chicago and not much snow here funniest argument, check this shot below from last blizzard there
- I dont have garage to store tires
- It is hassle to change one set to another

People, please winter tires are not for me, I have set on each of my car. it is for you and your family safety. It might also save someone’s life as well!!! And that is not funny.


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Old 02-11-2011, 10:45 PM
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+ 1,

That is what I am trying to expalin to all-season lovers here. So, finally I collected all lame arguments against of winter tires:

- They don't last long, I tried them on my VW before
- I am in Chicago and not much snow here funniest argument, check this shot below from last blizzard there
- I dont have garage to store tires
- It is hassle to change one set to another

People, please winter tires are not for me, I have set on each of my car. it is for you and your family safety. It might also save someone’s life as well!!! And that is not funny.

Where do you live? For you, it may make sense to have winter tires all winter long.. but we don't all live where you live. Half my winter, the temperatures are above 50 degrees, so to me, all seasons (at's to be exact) offer a better balance. By your logic, I'm presuming you have a dedicated set of summer performance tires for your Jeep as well? And a set of tires for your 'off-road' treks?
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Where do you live? For you, it may make sense to have winter tires all winter long.. but we don't all live where you live. Half my winter, the temperatures are above 50 degrees, so to me, all seasons (at's to be exact) offer a better balance. By your logic, I'm presuming you have a dedicated set of summer performance tires for your Jeep as well? And a set of tires for your 'off-road' treks?

Why did you participate in this thread than? Don't you read "Unsure about SNOW performance"? I don't think snow is possible in over 50 degrees unless artificial. That is for one who need winter tires!!! Where I leave we have tons of snow over winter and temperature 15F today. Besides it is been explained several times already, winter tires are for cold temperature not necessarily snow. No, I don't have dedicated summer tires for Jeep, I have stock set (rims/tires) which I will place back to Jeep in March/April. Stock is just fine until November and then will be replaced with winter set on cheap used Jeep rims from Ebay. How difficult is this? Yes I have summer performance p/s2 for my G37, but that is another story…

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Old 02-12-2011, 11:04 AM
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in VA. if you are in a accident and do not have m+s rated tire you get a ticket. you also get one if you get stuck.

Oh, and va is such a snow-heavy state, ahahahah. Minimal snow in that state makes for a national emergency and the people are to blame when you watch them try to drive in any wet weather. You can have that commie state. The ONLY state that radar/laser detectors are illegal. WTF?!
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Old 02-12-2011, 11:59 AM
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Why did you participate in this thread than? Don't you read "Unsure about SNOW performance"? I don't think snow is possible in over 50 degrees unless artificial. That is for one who need winter tires!!! Where I leave we have tons of snow over winter and temperature 15F today. Besides it is been explained several times already, winter tires are for cold temperature not necessarily snow. No, I don't have dedicated summer tires for Jeep, I have stock set (rims/tires) which I will place back to Jeep in March/April. Stock is just fine until November and then will be replaced with winter set on cheap used Jeep rims from Ebay. How difficult is this? Yes I have summer performance p/s2 for my G37, but that is another story…

It's 51 deg out right now and there is snow on the ground. You keep telling me the thread name.. I know the thread name! If this thread is JUST about snow performance, why do you bring up winter tires in previous posts as well as this one? The point I (and others) have tried to make is that snow tires may be ideal for you, but not everyone. I have a G37S as well, fine car!
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I live on the east coast of Canada and went out today in the snow. I am used to an Audi with snow tires and I must say these all seasons blow. I will be getting a set of snow tires very soon.

I just need to know what is the best options for wheels + tires + Pressure sensor combo. I don't know if I should get 18's or just put winter shoes on the 20's. I don't want to spend more than $1500 probably. And I don't want a hassle either.

Any info on what would be best would be really appreciated.
For my wife's Overland with the Off Road Adventure II Package and P265/60R18 non-off-road tires I've been debating on two tires. I specifically dropped the original 20" tires because of the lack of choice in better performing tires.

The tire with the above package is:
Latitude Tour(Crossover/SUV Touring All-Season)



Now I'm debating these:

LTX M/S2(Highway All-Season)


Destination A/T(On-/Off-Road All-Terrain)


The one thing I don't like about the A/Ts are their tread life, but I do like the tread look compared to the others. I think I'll wind up going with the LTX M/S2 with the better overall performace.

If I really needed winter tires (temperatures always below 35° F and constant snow on the ground), which I don't and neither do most people in the US, then this is the better choice between the two I looked at.

Blizzak DM-V1(Light Truck/SUV Studless Ice & Snow)


Here are all the tires. Again, the right choice for my, and probably most, needs is the LTX M/S2. The hassle of swapping out tires for only one season just isn't worth it.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compar...ex=66HR8SCORIS
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Re: Unsure about snow performance

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It's 51 deg out right now and there is snow on the ground. You keep telling me the thread name.. I know the thread name! If this thread is JUST about snow performance, why do you bring up winter tires in previous posts as well as this one? The point I (and others) have tried to make is that snow tires may be ideal for you, but not everyone. I have a G37S as well, fine car!

I think something wrong here, you should understeand that nothing will be better for SNOW/ICE/WINTER/COLD performance than winter tires. Period.
Doesn't metter how you will look on this, all-season's are OK but not superb. Snow you have on ground is not on highways at 50F, I mean snowfall is impossible. Snow is melting at this temperatures, it is just water as you might know, I hope ...
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I think something wrong here...
No kidding, can't imagine what all those doods in Colorado are thinking with their Destination AT's and Michelin LTX MS2's?

Oh wait.
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It's amazing how fast these threads spiral out of topic and then we continue throwing the same points back and forth. Aside from tires, maybe we could get back to talking about the WK2...just a thought.
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It's amazing how fast these threads spiral out of topic and then we continue throwing the same points back and forth. Aside from tires, maybe we could get back to talking about the WK2...just a thought.
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No kidding, can't imagine what all those doods in Colorado are thinking with their Destination AT's and Michelin LTX MS2's?

Oh wait.
You could even ride bicycle at snow/ice & cold, it is up to you and it is possibly could be fine too it should not be suggested for thread with name like this.

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