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Old 01-27-2011, 11:55 AM
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...The new snows make the JGC II the best winter investment that I have made other than my new crud and powder skis.
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Old 01-27-2011, 12:06 PM
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Looks OK, I wouldn't just buy expensive black 18 inch rims and cheapo Firestone tires ....
huh?

What tires would you have slapped on there?
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Old 01-27-2011, 12:22 PM
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+1 Exactly. Thanks Jake.

Anyone unsure about snow performance in the WK2 should move to Florida and buy a Cadillac. If you want to do the Tokyo drift in the snow just put her in sport mode, push down harder on that pedal to the far right, and dive into the turn.

Put Wayne Gretzky on the rink in dress shoes and he still will outperform most competitors. Give him a pair of sharp CCM's and he'll single handedly win Lord Stanley's Cup. Same for the WK2, it's a snowmobile with the right rubber.

Me thinks this thread ties the wiper thread as the most ridiculous, OMG i've got a hangnail, sky is falling, can't do donuts in snowy parking lot, let's publicize a non issue, doing it wrong, posts in the forum.

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<---That's my face driving the past week on the beach and through the snow today. I'm having a friggin' blast with this thing. I hope the permasmile never leaves my face.

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Re: Unsure about snow performance

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Me thinks this thread ties the wiper thread as the most ridiculous, OMG i've got a hangnail, sky is falling, can't do donuts in snowy parking lot, let's publicize a non issue, doing it wrong, posts in the forum.

Carry on.
Why are you knocking the wiper complaint? My wipers freeze up way more than normal. You don't consider that an issue? I guess visibility isn't important where you're from. I'm not necessarily blaming Jeep, I just want to know if someone has found a clever way to deal with it besides reaching your hand out the window at 40 mph and trying to grab and slap the wiper during each pass. Doing this 5 times on the way to work OR pulliing over on the Mass Pike are both ridiculously dangerous options.

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Re: Unsure about snow performance

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huh?

What tires would you have slapped on there?
huh to you back If we are talking about snow performance (as it said in this thread name) Bridgestone Blizzak's or Michelin XIce are much better performers. Not sure about your conditions but in general Firestone's are not super performers in any conditions.
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...Me thinks this thread ties the wiper thread as the most ridiculous...
Look, we got it - if it doesn't apply to you (yet) it is ridiculous. If it doesn't concern you it is ridiculous. If you disagree it is ridiculous.

Here is the way I see it: everyone is entitled to voice any concerns on this (or any other) forum. If you don't agree or don't share the same concern - why do you feel the need to respond and/or ridicule others? Are you now a doctor to diagnose "vehicle hypochondria"?
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Old 01-27-2011, 01:02 PM
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huh to you back If we are talking about snow performance (as it said in this thread name) Bridgestone Blizzak's or Michelin XIce are much better performers. Not sure about your conditions but in general Firestone's are not super performers in any conditions.
I'm not in the Rockies, or Alaska if that's what you mean.

For what my usage is, they're a great all-around performer. Let's face it, for what I want the tires for, I have to compromise somewhere. I'd rather have tires that will perform "good" on sand/snow/mud/etc. than focus on a tire that does one thing well. You've seen my pictures, I've had this thing on the beach and through some serious snow already. (no complaints) Of course, one's ability to drive in the aforementioned conditions needs to be taken into consideration. My first choice was the BFGoodrich A/T K/Os, but I remember how friggin' loud those things were on a previous vehicle. (besides, got a *great* deal on the Firestones! buy 3, get 1 free)

/Admittedly, I did take exception to the "cheapo" reference (my tires aren't "cheapo" dammit!!!)
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Re: Unsure about snow performance

Rob and Joe - my bad and apologies. Didn't mean to belittle anyone's challenges with their rigs. Perhaps I had the wrong impression that some folks may not be taking advantage of the simple, good advice put forth to help in these circumstanses.
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Re: Unsure about snow performance

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I'm not in the Rockies, or Alaska if that's what you mean.

For what my usage is, they're a great all-around performer. Let's face it, for what I want the tires for, I have to compromise somewhere. I'd rather have tires that will perform "good" on sand/snow/mud/etc. than focus on a tire that does one thing well. You've seen my pictures, I've had this thing on the beach and through some serious snow already. (no complaints) Of course, one's ability to drive in the aforementioned conditions needs to be taken into consideration. My first choice was the BFGoodrich A/T K/Os, but I remember how friggin' loud those things were on a previous vehicle. (besides, got a *great* deal on the Firestones! buy 3, get 1 free)

/Admittedly, I did take exception to the "cheapo" reference (my tires aren't "cheapo" dammit!!!)

Firestone, Cooper, BFGoodrich, General Tires, Kumho - > all normally considered as cheapo alternatives to Bridgestone, Michelin, Pirelli, Continental etc.
For mud and sand you might be right, I just didn't get your point of posting to the snow related thread. This is not snow tires at all and wouldn't be better than all-season tires much on snow.
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Re: Unsure about snow performance

Looking in the mirror when the snow comes flying up when these tires are chewing through it is something to see. (I mean literally chewing through the snow) I've found an appreciation of these tires since the snow doesn't seem to get stuck in the treads as compared to some other tread patterns.

I did also consider the Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revos, but ultimately chose the Firestones.
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Looking in the mirror when the snow comes flying up when these tires are chewing through it is something to see. (I mean literally chewing through the snow) I've found an appreciation of these tires since the snow doesn't seem to get stuck in the treads as compared to some other tread patterns.

I did also consider the Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revos, but ultimately chose the Firestones.
It is not just snow grip what is important in winter tires. Most important is how soft they are while cold temperature. Regular all seasons are getting as stone hard and stiff and as result don’t grip much too. Blizzak's are just superb for this, I got second pair since 2008 and tried several other brands nothing even close to them. I believe Dueler are all seasons too.
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Re: Unsure about snow performance

The only reason that I did not opt for the Blizzak's is that I do way too much highway driving and was concerned about longevity. The Hankook's have a thin steel strip belt in the middle and are softer in the frigid temps and should wear better than the Blizzak's for me. Originally, I wanted to go with the Bridgestone's but I decided to take a flyer with the Korean tires, and the Jeep is flying through the snow.
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