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Upgrading to '16 from a '14 - Hemi worth it?

Thinking about trading in my '14 Limited for a '16 Limited or Limited 75th Anniversary, I'm waiting for my dealer to email me back some prices since I'll have to order it. Will get Lux II (or 75th Lux), ORA-II and RA4. Only thing I can't decide on is whether to stick with the 3.6 or get the Hemi. I've been happy with the 3.6 on my current one, but wouldn't mind the extra get up and go. I'm also not wholly sold on the silly ESS thing on the "new" 3.6, though from what I can tell you can disable it, though I haven't seen if you can kill it permanently. From those that have gone from the V6 to the V8, was it worth it in the end? There's a real possibility I'll be towing in the future, but probably not at the full 7200lbs.

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Re: Upgrading to '16 from a '14 - Hemi worth it?

I think this is purely a personal choice thing...for some, upgrading to the Hemi is worth it; for others not so much. I have it now and it's nice for those very few times I need to tow, but my next one will have the more modest engine. 90% of my miles are highway for business travel and I have a light foot. It would be hard to justify the extra $3+K for the V8 next time. (And it may not even be an option if I wait for MY19 and the new platform)
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Re: Upgrading to '16 from a '14 - Hemi worth it?

It's definitely a personal opinion - I always base my choices on the big reviews of course, but I always want "on the ground" opinions too, from the people that actually own them. Especially in terms of maintenance, that's one of the reasons I didn't go with the V8 on my 2012 I had...the maintenance was ridiculous. At least with the Hemi now, you don't have to replace the plugs every 30K.

I have no qualms with my V6, but I've definitely had times, especially out on the highway, where my get up and go kinda got up and went. I've had this one for 3 years now and I thought I'd keep it...wellll, that kinda changed. If I wind up getting a '16, the earliest I would probably trade it is when the new generation comes out, and if I wind up hating the new one, I want to future proof mine a bit, so that's one of the reasons I'm optioning up the new one. My current one doesn't have Lux II, but since I drove one that did...now I want the options. Part of me doesn't want to get the V6 now and wish I'd gotten the V8 later, especially if I can't. I definitely know I don't want the diesel! I have a feeling I'll probably get the V8, just still on the fence a bit.
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Old 02-11-2016, 12:29 PM
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Re: Upgrading to '16 from a '14 - Hemi worth it?

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It's definitely a personal opinion - I always base my choices on the big reviews of course, but I always want "on the ground" opinions too, from the people that actually own them. Especially in terms of maintenance, that's one of the reasons I didn't go with the V8 on my 2012 I had...the maintenance was ridiculous. At least with the Hemi now, you don't have to replace the plugs every 30K.

I have no qualms with my V6, but I've definitely had times, especially out on the highway, where my get up and go kinda got up and went. I've had this one for 3 years now and I thought I'd keep it...wellll, that kinda changed. If I wind up getting a '16, the earliest I would probably trade it is when the new generation comes out, and if I wind up hating the new one, I want to future proof mine a bit, so that's one of the reasons I'm optioning up the new one. My current one doesn't have Lux II, but since I drove one that did...now I want the options. Part of me doesn't want to get the V6 now and wish I'd gotten the V8 later, especially if I can't. I definitely know I don't want the diesel! I have a feeling I'll probably get the V8, just still on the fence a bit.
I have the hemi in my 2014 and love it, I found the v6 to be a little lacking in the midrange passing power which for my purposes is something to think about if you do a lot of single lane driving. The 2016 does add 2mpg for mixed mileage in 2016 if mpg is one of your concerns. With the price of gas projected to stay relatively low for the next few years the mileage between the two is not on peoples minds much though. the thing to consider from a cost perspective is the upfront cost which is $3200 or something like that. so consider that up front cost as one of your big factors the real world mileage cost difference is not going to be as big a factor as many people tend to think it is when it comes down to the actual real world mixed mileage.

If you are on the fence between the v6 and v8 then get the v8 is all I will say or you will probably regret it later as you see on here many times. rarely do you see people regretting the v8 and wishing they had got the v6.
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Re: Upgrading to '16 from a '14 - Hemi worth it?

I'm getting the V8. Nothing wrong with the V6 at all, but when you drive them back to back, there is no substitute for all that torque. It is butter smooth. If you can afford the option, why not? The actual fuel mileage difference between the 2 engines is only 2-3 MPG's. That's about $300 year on 15000 miles.

If you even think you want the V8 now, it will gnaw at you afterwards that you didn't get it. And the probability that it won't be available much longer just reinforces my decision to get it. Who knows, it may actually add value down the road at trade in...
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Re: Upgrading to '16 from a '14 - Hemi worth it?

Nobody can comment on the 2016 3.6 V6 driving impressions currently. It's supposed to have more power.

I went from a Hemi to a Pentastar. Don't really miss the Hemi that often. Another factor is the Pentastar is almost 400lbs lighter than the Hemi.
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Re: Upgrading to '16 from a '14 - Hemi worth it?

I know I may sound like a broken record to some people on here, but thats only because it was that much of a difference that I like to voice my opinion in these kind of threads.
So I had a 2014 Summit V8, and now I'm in a 2015 High Altitude V6. Here is my best unbiased opinion on both since I liked them both.

The V8 and the 8spd is a VERY good combo. It shifts perfectly all the time and always at the right time. 1-2 shift was a little more noticeable than all the other gears, but thats just how it is. Sport mode was a blast, and the V8 just sounds incredible! They designed it to have such a perfect in cabin sound that I found myself just loving. The power of the V8 was most noticeable down low and mid range.

The V6 with the 8spd caught me by surprise. It was better than I thought it would be. The transmission is actually slightly smoother than it was with my V8. The V6 isn't much to listen to, but surprisingly it offers a noticeably more quiet in cabin driving experience. What I like most about the V6 is the vehicle feels significantly lighter and more nimble. The electric steering also adds to the lighter more nimble driving experience. Sport mode works as good as the V8, but the lack of a good engine sound kind of takes away a bit of the thrill.

In direct comparison, I actually enjoy driving my new HA with V6 a lot better. The lighter feel and handling was that big of a difference to me. I liked the sound of the V8 more...but who doesn't? Power wise, the V8 feels a little better at lower and mid rpm range, but not worlds better. Full throttle I swear the V6 is just as quick. I know the V8 can run fine on regular fuel, but the manual does recommend mid grade. So the regular fuel of the V6 is nice. Fuel economy wise, now that I have had time to burn some more gas in the V6 I'm starting to see a bigger difference than I original thought. In the dead of winter, with winter blend fuels, and still breaking in the engine, I have already exceeded the best average mpg I have ever achieved with my V8 in the best of summer conditions doing the exact same commute. Its kind of early to tell since I still have well shy of 1,000 miles on my V6 and its in the dead of winter, but even in these conditions I'm at about 4mpg difference between the two. I expect that gap to widen even more once I get to drive my V6 in warmer conditions.

I do not offroad or tow so I cant give any information regarding that, but obviously if those are important and a factor, then obviously the V8 would get the edge there. Hope this helps.
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Re: Upgrading to '16 from a '14 - Hemi worth it?

Hmmm. My dealer is working up pricing on both the V6 and the V8, so we'll see on that. Should have it soon. I've read the V8 now has the electric steering, so wonder if that makes a difference there too, I haven't driven one with the "normal" power steering. The weight is definitely something to think about too, I've been known to toss mine around a corner or two like I probably shouldn't have. I had a Ram 1500 as a rental when mine was in the shop with the Hemi and no lie, that was fun to drive, especially with the rear end light!

One of the reasons I'm considering the V8 is Quadra-Drive...I wouldn't mind that ELSD in the rear, though so far my QT-II hasn't let me down in the worst of it.

I'm so torn on this haha.
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Re: Upgrading to '16 from a '14 - Hemi worth it?

Yeah it's a tough decision for sure. Since there were some changes mainly to the V6 I think you for sure have to drive them both. Maybe see if they will let you do an extended test drive by yourself in each for a little longer than normal to give you a real feel for it. I hate driving around with a salesman. Most dealers have no problems letting you do that, especially if they know you are serious. I
And you are right I heard the V8 wil now have electric steering so that may help the "tank" feel a little lighter.

If you do drive both be sure to give us your opinions.
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Re: Upgrading to '16 from a '14 - Hemi worth it?

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It's definitely a personal opinion - I always base my choices on the big reviews of course, but I always want "on the ground" opinions too, from the people that actually own them. Especially in terms of maintenance, that's one of the reasons I didn't go with the V8 on my 2012 I had...the maintenance was ridiculous. At least with the Hemi now, you don't have to replace the plugs every 30K.

I have no qualms with my V6, but I've definitely had times, especially out on the highway, where my get up and go kinda got up and went. I've had this one for 3 years now and I thought I'd keep it...wellll, that kinda changed. If I wind up getting a '16, the earliest I would probably trade it is when the new generation comes out, and if I wind up hating the new one, I want to future proof mine a bit, so that's one of the reasons I'm optioning up the new one. My current one doesn't have Lux II, but since I drove one that did...now I want the options. Part of me doesn't want to get the V6 now and wish I'd gotten the V8 later, especially if I can't. I definitely know I don't want the diesel! I have a feeling I'll probably get the V8, just still on the fence a bit.

I agree it IS a personal thing, ah but what a dilemma to be able to ponder over, eh ? My 2003 Ram 1500 had the New 1st gen. of the New Hemi and there is/was Much to be said (all positive) about that "get on it and GO" and even more so when you "floor the pedal" ! With this Newer 2nd Gen. Hemi - 4 pistons shutting off at highway cruising speeds, etc. - maybe ?
BUT, why not wait a few short months longer and see what the Newest of the New Engine options will be arriving in the Early 2017's ?
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BUT, why not wait a few short months longer and see what the Newest of the New Engine options will be arriving in the Early 2017's ?
New engine options in the early 17s? What am I missing here?
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New engine options in the early 17s? What am I missing here?
I agree...I'm not expecting anything with that. The whole reason MY16 was delayed was to get the "new" V6 (which is really just altered) out. I doubt there will be more than subtle changes on engines for MY17 and MY18 at this point since they are the last two production model years for this platform...at least as the plan is currently written.
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