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Re: USA Today - Test Drive: New diesel Cherokee not quite Grand

Your claims get bigger every time you post and you are now posting numbers that defy belief. Your credibility is gone and I'm not buying it. You should have stopped with numbers that might have been possible for someone who goes to insane efforts to get the greatest possible mileage. It still wouldn't have been representative of what nearly everyone else could hope to get but at least you could be given the benefit of the doubt. That would be gone.

Your numbers are lies or miscalculations. Take your pick.
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Re: USA Today - Test Drive: New diesel Cherokee not quite Grand

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Your claims get bigger every time you post and you are now posting numbers that defy belief. Your credibility is gone and I'm not buying it. You should have stopped with numbers that might have been possible for someone who goes to insane efforts to get the greatest possible mileage. It still wouldn't have been representative of what nearly everyone else could hope to get but at least you could be given the benefit of the doubt. That would be gone.

Your numbers are lies or miscalculations. Take your pick.
Are these comments intended for the V6 zealots or for the Diesel fumes sniffers?
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Re: USA Today - Test Drive: New diesel Cherokee not quite Grand

I've never owned a Diesel but I'm seriously considering purchasing the JGC CRD later this year.

I've read a ton of other posts on this site about the DPF (limp mode) issue with the CRD, however there is no mention of it here whatsoever.

I really want the CRD, but I want to be confident that I won't get stuck 100s of km "out bush" with a DPF issue. I'd pay the extra dollars for fuel for the V8 to ensure piece of mind when I'm many miles from home.

Is the the DPF issue only a rare problem with a minority of CRD owners, or is it is really as bad as I've read elsewhere on this site? A lot of those DPF stories from other CRD owners are disturbing.
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Perhaps the biggest big surprise to us is how much we dig the new Ecodiesel V6 power plant. And we're frankly floored that our calculations suggest a 35,000-mile payback time relative to the Hemi V8. If you plan to keep yours longer, why wouldn't you?

While none of the engines are a bad choice, make ours an Ecodiesel. And then point us to the nearest patch of slickrock. This is the way to go in a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee.
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Re: USA Today - Test Drive: New diesel Cherokee not quite Grand

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Your claims get bigger every time you post and you are now posting numbers that defy belief. Your credibility is gone and I'm not buying it. You should have stopped with numbers that might have been possible for someone who goes to insane efforts to get the greatest possible mileage. It still wouldn't have been representative of what nearly everyone else could hope to get but at least you could be given the benefit of the doubt. That would be gone.

Your numbers are lies or miscalculations. Take your pick.
Plenty of folks getting similar mileage. We are not all lead foots.
I spit out my coffee any time I see anyone get anything below 20 MPG with the V6 gas.
Some folks get close to the same with the Hemi.

My wifes VW CC gets 38 MPG easy, it's rated for 31 MPG.
She has hit 42 a couple times on her 50 mile commute when she comes home late with no traffic.

I was surprised we got 28.2 today in the winter. It was warm today so tires might have been up a couple pounds more than normal. I expected 26-ish in winter.

I get 28 MPG in the summer on that trip every time. 120 miles each way.

I reported it back in August. My claims have not gone up.

Can't wait to see what it does this summer after it's been broken in and summer tires back on.
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Re: USA Today - Test Drive: New diesel Cherokee not quite Grand

Here is a photo of my lie.

I'm blown away by the MPG on the 2014 3.6L

There are other folks in that thread that have done even better than me and on much longer trips.
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My 160 miles was a typical business day. I reset the trip meter at the house and left home. I drove through town about 12 miles then drive 2 lane and rural 4 lane most of the day. I ate at Sonic and made phone calls while idling for 30 minutes. Drove through several small towns and had several slow downs for school zones and buses dropping off children. My 2009 Murano with 3.5 liter v6 got 20.4 mpg on that same daily route. If I reset the tripmeter and drive steady at 65, mine gets 36 mpg or better. Attached is a photo for proof. Cruise set at 65. Average speed was less due to a few single lane construction zones and hills.
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My 160 miles was a typical business day. I reset the trip meter at the house and left home. I drove through town about 12 miles then drive 2 lane and rural 4 lane most of the day. I ate at Sonic and made phone calls while idling for 30 minutes. Drove through several small towns and had several slow downs for school zones and buses dropping off children. My 2009 Murano with 3.5 liter v6 got 20.4 mpg on that same daily route. If I reset the tripmeter and drive steady at 65, mine gets 36 mpg or better. Attached is a photo for proof. Cruise set at 65. Average speed was less due to a few single lane construction zones and hills.
64MPH and you're taking pictures? :-O
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Lol...my phone's power button operates the camera. I didn't even look down...hence the crooked pic with flash glare.
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Re: USA Today - Test Drive: New diesel Cherokee not quite Grand

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Are these comments intended for the V6 zealots or for the Diesel fumes sniffers?
lol, I'm not sure myself anymore. I had been aiming it at the pentastar zealot who responded after you in response to that. I'm afraid that excursion might post another higher number and then he will be forced to respond as to how his uncle was driving it and his car was actually refining gas that he was going to have to stop and pump out so he could continue.

Mileage is calculated at the pump and no where else gents. Don't bother posting meaningless pictures of a transitory number on your evic.
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I get about that with Gas V-6. With Cheaper Fuel. The article was pretty much what I concluded before it was even available. And now the diesel folks towing are concerned about over heating. Also no life time warranty to boot. One thing I disagree with in the article is the shifter. It's fine. Takes some time to get used to. At first it did seem very clumsy. Not sure if firmware updates helped.
The shifter is awful. To easy to hit park when trying to engage reverse.
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Re: USA Today - Test Drive: New diesel Cherokee not quite Grand

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lol, I'm not sure myself anymore. I had been aiming it at the pentastar zealot who responded after you in response to that. I'm afraid that excursion might post another higher number and then he will be forced to respond as to how his uncle was driving it and his car was actually refining gas that he was going to have to stop and pump out so he could continue.

Mileage is calculated at the pump and no where else gents. Don't bother posting meaningless pictures of a transitory number on your evic.
I am guilty of this myself.

I have previously discussed elsewhere my trip over the 4th of July week 2013. It took me from Chicago to Denver over the Trail Ridge Rd. to the foot of the Grand Tetons (Jackson, WY) to Yellowstone NP (a few times) to Rapid City South Dakota, to Chicago. 4000 miles and an EVIC reading of 25.5 mpg. The Jeep was fully loaded both in features and also passengers and luggage. We never drove slower than 65-70, as a blanket statement. During this time we climbed to 12000 ft and I off-roaded the car.

You are absolutely correct - fuel economy should be calculated at the pump. For July 7th, you will see 3 entries. On that day we drove from Rapid City to Chicago, 740 miles (according to Google maps - I remember it to be about 800). That day we hauled ass, it was the longest one-day segment.

  • 24.86 mpg is the refueling very early that morning in Rapid City. This was for the segment between Jackson WY and Rapid City SD covered the previous day.
  • 21.33 mpg is for first leg of the journey on the 7th of July, from Rapid City to Chicago. We were stuck in heavy traffic under heavy rain. We drove painfully slow behind semis, stop and go traffic, mad acceleration to overtake when possible, crawling at other times.
  • 24.07 is the second leg of that journey. Weather cleared up, and we refueled around Madison Wisconsin.
  • The third and final leg from Madison, WI to Chicago, IL about 140 miles, I drove it at about 60 mph. This really helped with the fuel economy, reported at the end of the trip as 25.5 mpg for the whole 4000 mile journey. Madison is at some 863 feet elevation, Chicago is at some 600 feet elevation. It must have been the downhill ride...spread out over 140 miles (actually no...by the time you enter IL it gets pretty flat).
Next time I refueled was the 18th of July, after having driven in Chicago. The Pentastar ain't no diesel; it will NOT match it for fuel economy or torque. But it ain't no slouch either. I didn't tow on this trip nor did I break the sound barrier, but I was fully loaded for cargo and passengers and I drove at or above the speed limit, sometimes faster.

If I drive 60 mph, on cruise control, more or less at Chicago's altitude I will get 30 mpg.
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