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Old 10-28-2014, 11:10 PM
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Re: Used 2013 vs New 14 or 15

Having owned both a 2011 and a 2014...no way would I choose the 2013 over the 2014. Nothing against the pre-refresh WK2, the refresh model is just a much better vehicle for a lot of reasons, most notably the infotainment upgrade and the transmission.

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Re: Used 2013 vs New 14 or 15

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Thanks for all the replies. The '13 has been garage kept, no accidents or anything like that, the owner said they bought it as a pleasure vehicle and it doesnt get many miles put on it.

From what im gathering the 8 speed tranny is significantly better/more refined than the older 5 speed?

Anything else stand apart between the two?

When i price a new 14 or 15 Overland, even with the group buys, its still going to be around 45k out the door. This 13 with 6,000 miles could be had for close to 10k less.

I'm pricing out a '15 base overland 3.6 4x4 right now and was quoted at $42.3k (but before taxes) ...
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Re: Used 2013 vs New 14 or 15

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I'm pricing out a '15 base overland 3.6 4x4 right now and was quoted at $42.3k (but before taxes) ...
I would be a buyer at this price, in fact, my purchase price was only about $100 lower than this. I got 15 JGC Overland. My price also included the $500 rebate Chrysler is offering on '15 models. This is a good deal.
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Re: Used 2013 vs New 14 or 15

I had very similar considerations when buying mine but the 14 wins for tranny, navigation / screen, lights, and also I liked the diesel. Even without the diesel I would still choose 2014.
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Re: Used 2013 vs New 14 or 15

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I would be a buyer at this price, in fact, my purchase price was only about $100 lower than this. I got 15 JGC Overland. My price also included the $500 rebate Chrysler is offering on '15 models. This is a good deal.
I agree! This price is before the manufacturer rebates too! So i'm looking at $1,000 for lease conquest (I currently have a Nissan lease), $1,000 consumer cash 'coupon' I got in the mail from Jeep, and the $500 bonus cash... my pre-tax price should go down to just under $40k .... I don't think I'll get it any lower than that!
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Re: Used 2013 vs New 14 or 15

Take it from a '15 Overland owner---go with the '13 model. Yes, there are many nice upgrades on the '14 and '15 models, but the fatal flaw is the 8-speed transmission. There are far too many people (myself included) with transmission problems and it seems that Jeep/Chrysler isn't even close to figuring it out yet. For that reason alone, I'd stay away from '14 or '15 models. You can be a gambler and take a chance on getting one that works right, but that's what I did and I wasn't lucky.
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Re: Used 2013 vs New 14 or 15

We bought a '14 laredo for my wife last fall. While the 8 speed trans does improve gas mileage slightly and the seat of the pants acceleration fairly significantly, I don't like it. While accelerating from a stop with a gas sipping approach to the throttle it runs through the gears quickly until it starts to dog at 45 mph. I have to remember to turn off the eco button every time I get in. I just bought a loaded '12 altitude with 30,000 miles for significantly less cash. I like the older trans much better- it just seems to fit my drive style better. Regardless of the situation it shifts where I would shift if I were driving a manual trans.

Just my opinion. I'm not a luddite; I understand the 8 speed is a better machine, it just doesn't suit me. I also like the "real" shifter over the '14-'15 electronic switch. I can't get a feel for that thing.

Additionally, I prefer the front facia and tail lights on the pre-'14s. The interior though, is much improved on the newer model- radio, nav, and evic options are all much better.
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Re: Used 2013 vs New 14 or 15

On the 2015's Eco mode stays off if you had it off so that's not an issue anymore. It remembers your last setting


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Re: Used 2013 vs New 14 or 15

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Take it from a '15 Overland owner---go with the '13 model. Yes, there are many nice upgrades on the '14 and '15 models, but the fatal flaw is the 8-speed transmission. There are far too many people (myself included) with transmission problems and it seems that Jeep/Chrysler isn't even close to figuring it out yet. For that reason alone, I'd stay away from '14 or '15 models. You can be a gambler and take a chance on getting one that works right, but that's what I did and I wasn't lucky.
I just don't agree. I had a 2011 and have a 2014, and yeah the 8 speed is a little jerky at low speeds sometimes, but overall its a big improvement over the 5 speed in the 2011/2013 which has its own issues with responsiveness and gear selection.

I do agree the electronic switch shifter is just stupid.

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On the 2015's Eco mode stays off if you had it off so that's not an issue anymore. It remembers your last setting


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Actually, it doesn't. At first I thought it did, but I've tried it a bunch of time and it definitely defaults back to eco on every time you start the engine.
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I just don't agree. I had a 2011 and have a 2014, and yeah the 8 speed is a little jerky at low speeds sometimes, but overall its a big improvement over the 5 speed in the 2011/2013 which has its own issues with responsiveness and gear selection.

I do agree the electronic switch shifter is just stupid.
I'd have very little to complain about the 8-speed if I had one that worked right. Unfortunately for me, I do not. And even more unfortunately, Jeep dealers seem to be clueless on how to fix it. Anyway, my point is that buying a new JGC with the 8-speed is a crap shoot. You might get a good one and you might get a bad one. Sadly, there's simply no way to know for sure until you get it because some of them don't develop problems until they get a few miles on them.
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Actually, it doesn't. At first I thought it did, but I've tried it a bunch of time and it definitely defaults back to eco on every time you start the engine.
Many others have confirmed that the setting is stored on the 2015's. I guess i'll have to try again tomorrow and see for myself again.
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