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Old 05-08-2013, 05:27 PM
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I would let others debug the new engine.
But it's not a new engine. It's only "new" to the US market relative to Jeep GC...
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Re: V8 vs mythical crd

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But it's not a new engine. It's only "new" to the US market relative to Jeep GC...
Very True!... maybe look at it this way, the other bugs will be sorted by the time the CRD makes it in there
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Old 05-08-2013, 05:34 PM
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Re: V8 vs mythical crd

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Congrats on the V8!! Saved money.. and you won't smell.. no matter how "clean" a diesel is.. they always have some stink...
Thanks.

The better half drives a VW TDI. We love that car, mileage is phenomenal and I guess all the truckers and bus drivers around here must be clean freaks because we have yet to encounter a oily mess at the pump...

They don't smell either, unless you count an odd "pine-sol" type odor from time to time.

Anyway, I think I'll be plenty happy with the hemi and when we want to do a cross country trek, we'll just take the TDI.
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Old 05-08-2013, 05:52 PM
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Congrats on the V8!! Saved money.. and you won't smell.. no matter how "clean" a diesel is.. they always have some stink...
I would congratulate as well but I totally disagree on the stink. Any new unit with the newer diesels doesn't smell like anything and matter of fact is cleaner emissions than gas in many ways. I can't leave the current hemi running and hook up a trailer the fumes are overwhelming. New TDI or Bluetec no problem..... not that I lime to hang around the tailpipe of anything too long
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Re: V8 vs mythical crd

The largest factor is going to be resale and what gas prices are going to do in the next few years. If gas sky rockets V8's may become less popular and diesels/hybrids king. But if things stay constant getting the diesel will take a while to break even.
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Re: V8 vs mythical crd

Why the delay on the CRD engine? Are they having problems with it? This is something I think would be a relevant question. I realize this engine has been in use for years across the ocean, but is it a good engine? Age doesn't necessarily equal reliability.

Also, virtually every reliability report I've read gives the Hemi a poor report card compared to the V6, I'm not sure why people aren't talking about this. Another factor to consider vs. the CRD.

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Re: V8 vs mythical crd

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Why the delay on the CRD engine? Are they having problems with it? This is something I think would be a relevant question. I realize this engine has been in use for years across the ocean, but is it a good engine? Age doesn't necessarily equal reliability.

Also, virtually every reliability report I've read gives the Hemi a poor report card compared to the V6, I'm not sure why people aren't talking about this. Another factor to consider vs. the CRD.

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Milous answered this yesterday ... keep up!

They are building diesels to get them to places where they are more popular, like Australia. He said they are running low on MY13 product.
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Old 05-09-2013, 07:29 AM
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Re: V8 vs mythical crd

Yes, as bill and Milous have said: it makes good business sense to keep the channel full where they would be losing sales since the gas models don't sell nearly as well down there. I'm sure it's also so that they probably have their US-destined lines saturated with V6 and V8 orders so shifting resources doesn't make lots of sense.

My guess is that as long as they are producing as many vehicles as they possibly can, they will not open up the CRD orders. There's no reason to. All their lines are saturated and CRD orders would do nothing for their bottom line.

Once the gasser demand gets low enough that they have capacity on the line, they'll open up the CRD orders. That will probably be after summer since they have a hot item on their hands. My guess is that orders will open up in August for Sept delivery.
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Old 05-09-2013, 07:55 AM
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Re: V8 vs mythical crd

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But it's not a new engine. It's only "new" to the US market relative to Jeep GC...
I thought this motor was introduced in 2011. How old is it?
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Old 05-09-2013, 08:18 AM
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I thought this motor was introduced in 2011. How old is it?
Yes, it was in GCs overseas with the 5 speed in 2011. The torque is a little higher for the NA release and first time with an 8 speed
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Re: V8 vs mythical crd

If you search Milous posts, you will see there has been already shipments to Australia.
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Re: V8 vs mythical crd

I guess i have a different interpretation of what a new motor is. You could probably count the cars with this motor with over 100,000 miles on one hand.
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