Go Back   Jeep Garage - Jeep Forum > Jeep Platform Discussion > Grand Cherokee - WK2 -

Join Jeep Garage Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
  #37  
Old 05-09-2013, 01:36 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 1053
TedD is on a distinguished road
Re: V8 vs mythical crd

Is there any documentation on the service intervals for the CRD? I tend to keep cars a long time (MDX is on year 8) and maintenance costs will certainly be a factor in my decision between the V8 (Hemi) and the CRD.
__________________

__________________
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 05-09-2013, 03:39 PM
tyresmoker's Avatar
Member
My Jeep: 2011 5.7L WK2
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 173
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 29651
tyresmoker has a reputation beyond reputetyresmoker has a reputation beyond reputetyresmoker has a reputation beyond reputetyresmoker has a reputation beyond reputetyresmoker has a reputation beyond reputetyresmoker has a reputation beyond reputetyresmoker has a reputation beyond reputetyresmoker has a reputation beyond reputetyresmoker has a reputation beyond reputetyresmoker has a reputation beyond reputetyresmoker has a reputation beyond repute
Re: V8 vs mythical crd

As long as the crooks in Washington and big oil are in bed together, we will never see a rational diesel passenger car market here in the US. We are just too dependent on the stuff and willing to pay whatever it takes to get it.
__________________

__________________
Tyresmoker
Current:
2011 MG Summit 5.7
2011 BMW X3
Retired:
2008 Super Duty Lariat Diesel
2007 MB ML CDI
Fired:
2003 Range Rover HSE
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 05-09-2013, 03:55 PM
mceb's Avatar
Member
My Jeep: 2014 3.6L WK2
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: NJ
Posts: 386
Thanks: 7
Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts
Rep Power: 972
mceb is on a distinguished road
Re: V8 vs mythical crd

Quote:
Originally Posted by TedD View Post
Is there any documentation on the service intervals for the CRD? I tend to keep cars a long time (MDX is on year 8) and maintenance costs will certainly be a factor in my decision between the V8 (Hemi) and the CRD.
The owner section of Jeep site has 2014 manuals.
Jeep Owners | Download an Owners Manual 2004 - 2011 | Jeep

The user guide has a diesel chapter (pages 119-125). It mentions several EVIC messages and procedures for maintenance but doesn't say the interval - just that the EVIC will tell you.

The maintenance chapter in the owners manual doesn't appear to have anything on the CRD in the maintenance chart, at least that I can find.
__________________
2014 JGC Overland 4x4, V6, White with Blue/Brown Interior
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 05-09-2013, 04:21 PM
Willx's Avatar
Moderator - MOTS jr.


My Jeep: 2014 3.0L WK2
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 4,884
Thanks: 529
Thanked 859 Times in 469 Posts
Rep Power: 1927068
Willx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond repute
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by TedD View Post
Is there any documentation on the service intervals for the CRD? I tend to keep cars a long time (MDX is on year 8) and maintenance costs will certainly be a factor in my decision between the V8 (Hemi) and the CRD.
Every other European Diesel this size runs 9500 - 11000 miles between service intervals. The Mercedes diesel currently has a service interval every 10000 miles. I would expect that this unit will be very similar but use the EVIC to calculate the variance between all highway and severe service. Just an opinion but based on past experience.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #41  
Old 05-09-2013, 04:58 PM
Member
My Jeep: 2012 5.7L WK2
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 100
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 715
ms.annthrope is on a distinguished road
Re: V8 vs mythical crd

Here's sset of maintenance and service tables to consider.

Jeep Grand Cherokee WK2 - Maintenance information and schedules
__________________
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to ms.annthrope For This Useful Post:
  #42  
Old 05-09-2013, 05:07 PM
Willx's Avatar
Moderator - MOTS jr.


My Jeep: 2014 3.0L WK2
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 4,884
Thanks: 529
Thanked 859 Times in 469 Posts
Rep Power: 1927068
Willx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond repute
Garage
Re: V8 vs mythical crd

Quote:
Originally Posted by tyresmoker View Post
As long as the crooks in Washington and big oil are in bed together, we will never see a rational diesel passenger car market here in the US. We are just too dependent on the stuff and willing to pay whatever it takes to get it.
I just checked the average fuel price data on the AAA website and it seems that nationally Diesel seems to be approximately 10% more on average over the past year. (I know for some states this doesn't work out). Savings on driving diesel are usually not less than 30% (I have personally seen more but let's stay on the side of caution). So really it would be like saving 20% on fuel every day. In this case it still matters how much you drive and multiply those savings if you tow a trailer but really there are many people that would save money within 3 years if nothing at all changed from today.

Of course I will give you credit on the one note, that globally Diesel is much more affordable and now due to advances in technology cleaner than many gas vehicles on the road.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 05-09-2013, 09:38 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 36
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 591
Diavel has much to be proud of
Re: V8 vs mythical crd

I wanted the diesel and went with the Hemi. No regrets here one month in.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 05-09-2013, 09:59 PM
jgc4ever's Avatar
Senior Member
My Jeep: 2012 5.7L WK2
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 3,218
Thanks: 0
Thanked 80 Times in 71 Posts
Rep Power: 1160296
jgc4ever has a reputation beyond reputejgc4ever has a reputation beyond reputejgc4ever has a reputation beyond reputejgc4ever has a reputation beyond reputejgc4ever has a reputation beyond reputejgc4ever has a reputation beyond reputejgc4ever has a reputation beyond reputejgc4ever has a reputation beyond reputejgc4ever has a reputation beyond reputejgc4ever has a reputation beyond reputejgc4ever has a reputation beyond repute
Garage
Re: V8 vs mythical crd

Quote:
Originally Posted by jeep2011 View Post
The largest factor is going to be resale and what gas prices are going to do in the next few years. If gas sky rockets V8's may become less popular and diesels/hybrids king. But if things stay constant getting the diesel will take a while to break even.
I wish gas would go to $5 a gallon and they were forced to offer huge discounts on SRTs!!!!!!!
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 05-09-2013, 11:20 PM
Tony407's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 287
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 1057
Tony407 has a reputation beyond reputeTony407 has a reputation beyond reputeTony407 has a reputation beyond reputeTony407 has a reputation beyond reputeTony407 has a reputation beyond reputeTony407 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: V8 vs mythical crd

If Jeep wonders why the diesel model doesn't sell very well when it finally comes out, they will only have themselves to blame. I imagine a lot of us here in the U.S. will get tired of waiting and opt for the V6 or Hemi.

Tony
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 05-10-2013, 05:53 AM
mceb's Avatar
Member
My Jeep: 2014 3.6L WK2
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: NJ
Posts: 386
Thanks: 7
Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts
Rep Power: 972
mceb is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Willx View Post

Every other European Diesel this size runs 9500 - 11000 miles between service intervals. The Mercedes diesel currently has a service interval every 10000 miles. I would expect that this unit will be very similar but use the EVIC to calculate the variance between all highway and severe service. Just an opinion but based on past experience.
Thanks. Every 10,000 miles is good by me.
__________________
2014 JGC Overland 4x4, V6, White with Blue/Brown Interior
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 05-10-2013, 06:05 AM
Willx's Avatar
Moderator - MOTS jr.


My Jeep: 2014 3.0L WK2
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 4,884
Thanks: 529
Thanked 859 Times in 469 Posts
Rep Power: 1927068
Willx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond reputeWillx has a reputation beyond repute
Garage
Re: V8 vs mythical crd

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony407 View Post
If Jeep wonders why the diesel model doesn't sell very well when it finally comes out, they will only have themselves to blame. I imagine a lot of us here in the U.S. will get tired of waiting and opt for the V6 or Hemi.

Tony
There are others of us as well that as much as I love the Jeep I would need to reconsider and go to something else. I do enough miles and towing that my payback on diesel is less than 2 years.... For those people they simply would be considering a different vehicle all together that has Diesel.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 05-10-2013, 08:44 AM
padgett's Avatar
Premium Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Orlando
Posts: 1,544
Thanks: 0
Thanked 24 Times in 21 Posts
Rep Power: 80176
padgett has a reputation beyond reputepadgett has a reputation beyond reputepadgett has a reputation beyond reputepadgett has a reputation beyond reputepadgett has a reputation beyond reputepadgett has a reputation beyond reputepadgett has a reputation beyond reputepadgett has a reputation beyond reputepadgett has a reputation beyond reputepadgett has a reputation beyond reputepadgett has a reputation beyond repute
Re: V8 vs mythical crd

A good resource is gasbuddy.com, just plug in the zip code of interest and get revently observed prices for reg., mid, premium, and diesel.

Agree the option is best for someone who would have a Hemi otherwise and not so vs the flexfuel V6 for someone who does not drive a lot. Around here the cost for diesel is about 12.5% more than reqular and 6% more than midgrade.

Also think that other than the faux-greens whose other car is a Prius, the real market is for a workhorse and not a GALB. Once production catches up to demand I suspect it will become an option on the Laredo "E", just takes a checkbox on the computer. Q3 or Q4 perhaps when the Cherokee is introed, suspect it will take sales from the Grand.

Taxes can also vary widely between states. Figuring all of the taxes on a gallon of gas or diesel (Federal, State, Sales, underground storage, "component b") would take an accountant and comiled lsts often leave out elements (most confusing is California which seems to differentiate between Inter and Intrastate for diesel).

Bottom line: in 2013 not only do the ultra low sufate lrequirements have an impact on diesel, it also seems to be taxed higher than gasoline. Double whammy.
__________________

Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2014 Grand Cherokee CRD / 2014 Touareg CRD LJS8510 Diesel Powered 2012+ Export Grand Cherokee 6 04-11-2013 11:19 PM
GC WK 3.0.CRD :: 2007 Jeep WK 3.0 CRD AŅO 2007 juruda Member Garage Discussions 0 02-02-2013 02:30 PM
3.0 crd mattie_b Wrangler-YJ, TJ & JK 1 01-14-2013 04:53 PM
Crd wkthursty Diesel Powered WK Grand Cherokee 9 03-15-2012 09:38 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:02 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2012 - JeepGarage.Org
The Jeep Grand Cherokee Owners Community