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Old 08-21-2010, 05:33 PM
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Re: VIN sequence

I know it may have less than no bearing on the automotive industry, but in the firearms world all firearms (I'm talking US law) are required to have a serial number unique to the manufacturer, but they do NOT have to be sequential. Some companies (Caspian) have been known to make custom frames with a serial number specified by the buyer. Just because there's an ABC1234 doesn't mean there was an ABC1233. I expect there's more method than this to the VIN madness, but just sayin'.
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I know it may have less than no bearing on the automotive industry, but in the firearms world all firearms (I'm talking US law) are required to have a serial number unique to the manufacturer, but they do NOT have to be sequential. Some companies (Caspian) have been known to make custom frames with a serial number specified by the buyer. Just because there's an ABC1234 doesn't mean there was an ABC1233. I expect there's more method than this to the VIN madness, but just sayin'.
You are absolutely right on the weapon serial numbers. The only thing I know of that requires sequential serials (or at least all manufacturers do it voluntarily) is aircraft (I am talking about the airframe itself not necessarily part numbers).
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Re: VIN sequence

From "NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION, DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION "

http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_20...49cfr565.6.pdf


"The third through the eighth characters of the fourth section shall represent the number sequentially assigned by the manufacturer in the production process if the manufacturer produces 500 or more vehicles of its type annually. "
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"The third through the eighth characters of the fourth section shall represent the number sequentially assigned by the manufacturer."
Sequentially "assigned" to some extent, but not sequentially "built".


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I have a overland in D status that was ordered on July 19. VIN 534870
This vehicle entered D1 status on 8/20.


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I was hoping to get a estimate of when it would be built.
Nearly impossible to nail it down exactly. Too many factors come into play, such as dealer allocation, parts availability, vehicles already scheduled ahead of it, etc. And once built the arrival time to the dealer can vary widely, based on length of time before being released by the plant, queue time for railcar loading, and distance from the plant.


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...One of the local dealers has a Grand Limited that they got early that has a VIN of 500866. One of the overlands on a dealers lot has a VIN of 531137....If so, then there has been 30,271 jeeps produced between the oldest 2011 on a lot compared to the newest. It also means that 3743 vehicles are ahead of me.
Vehicles are not built in exact VIN order, they are scattered all over the place. They are generally assigned sequentially as orders are placed to dealers, but it would be impossible to build them in exact VIN order - and there is really no worthwhile reason to do so. Early VIN numbers are set aside for pre-production models, and blocks of later numbers can also be set aside for certain vehicle runs.

You cannot take a "newer" VIN (like 531137) and subtract an early VIN (500866) to come up with an accurate total build number. There are a lot of vehicles with numbers below 531137 that have not yet been built, and there are a lot of numbers higher than 53137 that have already left the plant. In addition, the plant is also building Dodge Durango's, and the Durango VIN numbers are mixed in with the Grand Cherokee models. Some recent Overlands have been built with 539xxx numbers.

The plant does however assign a separate build sequence number (unrelated to the VIN sequence number) to every vehicle that rolls off the line. These numbers represent the exact build order for every vehicle. A build sheet with the sequence number is included with every vehicle shipped out and is typically thrown away by the dealer during PDI (Pre-Delivery Inspection aka dealer prep). This sheet also lists part numbers key for options such as radios, speakers, headlamps, and clusters. A lot of enthusiasts will request in advance of delivery that their dealer save this paper, as well as the window sticker and all other papers in the vehicle. Many, myself included, make sure we are at the dealer the minute the truck pulls up to unload the vehicle, and we stay at the dealer during the PDI, driving it home right after. The time during the wait is spent doing all of the final paperwork to complete the sale. Being there before the PDI is done assures that the paperwork will not be tossed.
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Re: VIN sequence

Milous,
Thanks so much for the valuable information. I will be sure to get the build sheet, as I like to get as much information about the vehicle as possible for later potential use in repairs, updates, and custom changes.
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Re: VIN sequence

Mine is an Overland V6 Inferno Red 4x4 no options. I ordered on July 20th. VIN is BC542488.

Mine went to Gate line status today. I'm not really sure what that means, I'm thinking it means it's about to be built. The estimated ship date according to the hotline is Sept, 10th. That is the first time I have been given a date, and the rep said it is possible it will ship sooner.

Hope this helps.... If I'm wrong about gate line status someone let me know!
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