Welp...RWD Grand Cherokee's are basically useless off road - Page 2 - Jeep Garage - Jeep Forum

Go Back   Jeep Garage - Jeep Forum > Jeep Platform Discussion > Grand Cherokee - WK2 -

Join Jeep Garage Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
  #13  
Old 08-18-2014, 07:42 PM
moosehead's Avatar
Horseshoe for the Donkeys

My Jeep: 2011 5.7L WK2
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: CO Rockies
Posts: 3,204
Thanks: 225
Thanked 106 Times in 91 Posts
Rep Power: 1621595
moosehead has a reputation beyond reputemoosehead has a reputation beyond reputemoosehead has a reputation beyond reputemoosehead has a reputation beyond reputemoosehead has a reputation beyond reputemoosehead has a reputation beyond reputemoosehead has a reputation beyond reputemoosehead has a reputation beyond reputemoosehead has a reputation beyond reputemoosehead has a reputation beyond reputemoosehead has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Welp...RWD Grand Cherokee's are basically useless off road

Quote:
Originally Posted by xJoshxx View Post
Lesson Learned Never Buy a 2wd Jeep.
+1

2wd Jeep = Using a Trojan with a hole in it

__________________
2011 JGC Oland Hemi / Borla Catback Proto / Hemifever Tune on DS Trinity / Flyin Ryan PTB / Volant CAI / Bwoody Sway Links / BT Catch Can & Underhood Kit / Jon's Tinted Tails / SRT8 Hood, Steering Wheel, Shiftknob, Pedals / Firestone Dest AT's & Winter 18's / Focal 165 Component Fronts, Alpine PDX 5 Amp, Rockford Fosgate P3 10" Sub & Fiberglass Enclosure / PS2 Grill, Mirrors & Liftgate Strip / Tow Hooks & Skids / JW Speaker LED Foglights / Debadged, Tint, Clear Bra / Sharkfin / Vled & Putco LED's / JRoll Uber-Tech Cabin Filter / RA & Yak Roof Rack / Lit Sills, Slush & Cargo Mats
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to moosehead For This Useful Post:
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #14  
Old 08-18-2014, 07:51 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 151
Thanks: 2
Thanked 12 Times in 8 Posts
Rep Power: 1566
whartung is a glorious beacon of light
Re: Welp...RWD Grand Cherokee's are basically useless off road

Quote:
Originally Posted by imissedtheapex View Post
Having said that, if the FWD mini that was parked behind me could pull out of the same mire, then the JEEP should be able to do the same, standard.
The Mini is lighter than the JGC. Being FWD, the Mini has a bit more weight over the drive wheels (a key reason FWD does well is slippery conditions). Also, the Mini, being FWD, can turn the wheels to potentially change the traction dynamics.

A FWD can have all sorts of potential advantages over a RWD JGC.

I will say, though, that Towing won't be one of them.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 08-18-2014, 07:59 PM
MDBones's Avatar
OVERLAND HIGH ALTITUDE
My Jeep: 2016 3.6L WK2
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Wisconsin's West Coast
Posts: 3,592
Thanks: 630
Thanked 613 Times in 503 Posts
Rep Power: 10619
MDBones has a reputation beyond reputeMDBones has a reputation beyond reputeMDBones has a reputation beyond reputeMDBones has a reputation beyond reputeMDBones has a reputation beyond reputeMDBones has a reputation beyond reputeMDBones has a reputation beyond reputeMDBones has a reputation beyond reputeMDBones has a reputation beyond reputeMDBones has a reputation beyond reputeMDBones has a reputation beyond repute
Garage
Re: Welp...RWD Grand Cherokee's are basically useless off road

I don't know what else I could add to the above, you guys pretty much said it all. So I guess I'll just sit back, laugh and shake my head.

__________________
http://www.jeepgarage.org/members/54562-albums357-picture4289.png
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 08-18-2014, 08:46 PM
Member
My Jeep: 2014 3.6L WK2
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 224
Thanks: 4
Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts
Rep Power: 2688
jerryw1000 has a reputation beyond reputejerryw1000 has a reputation beyond reputejerryw1000 has a reputation beyond reputejerryw1000 has a reputation beyond reputejerryw1000 has a reputation beyond reputejerryw1000 has a reputation beyond reputejerryw1000 has a reputation beyond reputejerryw1000 has a reputation beyond reputejerryw1000 has a reputation beyond reputejerryw1000 has a reputation beyond reputejerryw1000 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Welp...RWD Grand Cherokee's are basically useless off road

My solution was to buy two of them. The wife has her 2x grocery getter which she loves to drive, and I've got the 4x if we are going ANYWHERE that I might want to get off road or that I am not familiar with. If I could only have one it would be a 4x4.
__________________
2011 Grand Cherokee Laredo X 4x4 V6
2014 Grand Cherokee Limited 4x2 V6
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 08-18-2014, 08:59 PM
ChrisOC's Avatar
Member
My Jeep: 2012 3.6L WK2
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 303
Thanks: 1
Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Rep Power: 132455
ChrisOC has a reputation beyond reputeChrisOC has a reputation beyond reputeChrisOC has a reputation beyond reputeChrisOC has a reputation beyond reputeChrisOC has a reputation beyond reputeChrisOC has a reputation beyond reputeChrisOC has a reputation beyond reputeChrisOC has a reputation beyond reputeChrisOC has a reputation beyond reputeChrisOC has a reputation beyond reputeChrisOC has a reputation beyond repute
Quote:
Originally Posted by moosehead View Post
+1 2wd Jeep = Using a Trojan with a hole in it
Haha, the great moosehead returns with another great reply. Op, this is the exact reason why I got a 4x4 over the 2, I know mine will never see day in and day out 4x4 action, but when u need it, ya need it. I too learned the hard way when I made it all the way up a mountain road to go boarding without chains, then decided to grab a quick breakfast sandwich right below the slopes. I park my ford ranger in the parking lot, ate, tried to leave and couldn't get out of my parking space. I had to put chains on to get out of a parking space. Uggggg, but hey, I ditched school for a great day of powder, so the day wasn't completely ruined.
__________________
When life gives you lemons, run that crap over.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 08-18-2014, 09:15 PM
silvermax04's Avatar
Premium Member
My Jeep: 2014 5.7L WK2
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 3,394
Thanks: 259
Thanked 569 Times in 440 Posts
Rep Power: 30375
silvermax04 has a reputation beyond reputesilvermax04 has a reputation beyond reputesilvermax04 has a reputation beyond reputesilvermax04 has a reputation beyond reputesilvermax04 has a reputation beyond reputesilvermax04 has a reputation beyond reputesilvermax04 has a reputation beyond reputesilvermax04 has a reputation beyond reputesilvermax04 has a reputation beyond reputesilvermax04 has a reputation beyond reputesilvermax04 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Welp...RWD Grand Cherokee's are basically useless off road

I think a lot of people mistake 4x4 as meaning you only need that to if you are going to go rock crawling. A rear wheel drive with a heavy suv like the GC can cause you problems in a lot of places, wet grass when you are parking in a field at the county fair or farmers market, soft shoulders when you pull off the road, I have had problems taking rear wheel drive cars up steep paved inclines that are only wet before. I would take a RWD car over a RWD jeep any day concerning traction. The GC as RWD would be like a lead brick. A sunny day on dry pavement ok, but its often not like that though even when you are not an off roader. I don't get it either but whatever people want to spend their money on I guess.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 08-18-2014, 09:27 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 476
Thanks: 30
Thanked 31 Times in 27 Posts
Rep Power: 3080
imaz has a reputation beyond reputeimaz has a reputation beyond reputeimaz has a reputation beyond reputeimaz has a reputation beyond reputeimaz has a reputation beyond reputeimaz has a reputation beyond reputeimaz has a reputation beyond reputeimaz has a reputation beyond reputeimaz has a reputation beyond reputeimaz has a reputation beyond reputeimaz has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Welp...RWD Grand Cherokee's are basically useless off road

uploadfromtaptalk1408411627092.jpg
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 08-18-2014, 09:36 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 60
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 1063
imissedtheapex is on a distinguished road
Re: Welp...RWD Grand Cherokee's are basically useless off road

Quote:
Originally Posted by lstowell View Post
Umm, did the mini bury their tires before stopping to think about whether or not their
driving tactics were a good idea?

Burying any vehicles tires tends to indicate a sort of lack of paying attention.

what are you talking about? burying tires indicates a lack of paying attention? how often have you parked on the side of a road. When have you ever expected it to be silt? When you pull out of a parking spot do you make a 3 pronged plan of attack? Check the soil for viscosity and depth? I'm guessing not... Gimme a break dude.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 08-18-2014, 09:40 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 60
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 1063
imissedtheapex is on a distinguished road
Re: Welp...RWD Grand Cherokee's are basically useless off road

Quote:
Originally Posted by devilsadvocate View Post
Why would you assume that? The thing that makes the Jeep competent on rough terrain is the 4WD system. Without that, why would you expect anything? This is like saying "look, he came from a GREAT boxing family, who cares if he was born without arms, he should be a FANTASTIC fighter!"
Ok, I'll use some of the arguments made around here...if you were to buy a porsche, would you not kind of maybe have the tiniest expectation that it would be sporty and handle well??
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 08-18-2014, 09:43 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 60
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 1063
imissedtheapex is on a distinguished road
Re: Welp...RWD Grand Cherokee's are basically useless off road

Quote:
Originally Posted by devilsadvocate View Post
Not necessarily. There are weight/balance considerations that make RWD attractive.

That said, I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would get a 2WD Jeep. That would be like getting a slow Porsche or a minivan with seating for 4 and little cargo room. The Jeep exists for those of us interested in a car that has fantastic 4WD. If I didn't care about that there are a bunch of cars I'd get instead. The 2WD model is the worst of all worlds - you still have the weight of the Jeep, the cost of the Jeep, Jeep's reliability and service (or lack thereof), crappy fuel economy, for what possible payoff? It isn't any better off the road or in deep snow than a normal sedan. In fact, the high center of gravity can be a liability (and the ground clearance isn't helpful since with 2WD you won't get over any obstacles anyway). At that point just get a sedan.
I live in LA. It doesn't even rain around here - we are in a major drought. I needed and like the tow capacity. As a street car it's been awesome honestly. I don't go off roading or camping.....if I were to buy a car for that reason I can think of a pile I'd choose before buying a highly optioned, leather laden Grand Cherokee lol.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 08-18-2014, 09:45 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 60
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 1063
imissedtheapex is on a distinguished road
Re: Welp...RWD Grand Cherokee's are basically useless off road

Quote:
Originally Posted by silvermax04 View Post
I think a lot of people mistake 4x4 as meaning you only need that to if you are going to go rock crawling. A rear wheel drive with a heavy suv like the GC can cause you problems in a lot of places, wet grass when you are parking in a field at the county fair or farmers market, soft shoulders when you pull off the road, I have had problems taking rear wheel drive cars up steep paved inclines that are only wet before. I would take a RWD car over a RWD jeep any day concerning traction. The GC as RWD would be like a lead brick. A sunny day on dry pavement ok, but its often not like that though even when you are not an off roader. I don't get it either but whatever people want to spend their money on I guess.
Lesson learned. Next time, I'm getting the 4x4 lol.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 08-18-2014, 09:48 PM
MDBones's Avatar
OVERLAND HIGH ALTITUDE
My Jeep: 2016 3.6L WK2
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Wisconsin's West Coast
Posts: 3,592
Thanks: 630
Thanked 613 Times in 503 Posts
Rep Power: 10619
MDBones has a reputation beyond reputeMDBones has a reputation beyond reputeMDBones has a reputation beyond reputeMDBones has a reputation beyond reputeMDBones has a reputation beyond reputeMDBones has a reputation beyond reputeMDBones has a reputation beyond reputeMDBones has a reputation beyond reputeMDBones has a reputation beyond reputeMDBones has a reputation beyond reputeMDBones has a reputation beyond repute
Garage
Re: Welp...RWD Grand Cherokee's are basically useless off road

Quote:
Originally Posted by imissedtheapex View Post
Ok, I'll use some of the arguments made around here...if you were to buy a porsche, would you not kind of maybe have the tiniest expectation that it would be sporty and handle well??

Of course. That's why when I buy a Jeep it's a 4x4.
__________________
http://www.jeepgarage.org/members/54562-albums357-picture4289.png
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
grand cherokee

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Welp, gunna pull the trigger on these... Chunderboy Suspension/Driveline/Brakes/Wheels/Tires 3 05-16-2016 09:44 AM
RWD Jeep. Dougisjeep Grand Cherokee - WK 21 08-26-2014 05:28 AM
Welp Jeeps at the dealership ONEbadHEEPtruck Grand Cherokee - WK 10 05-04-2013 09:39 PM
R/T AWD vs. RWD TKosmo 2011+ Dodge Durango-WD 4 03-28-2013 11:04 AM
Hello! Replacing 2006 Explorer EB V8 RWD FStephenMasek New Members - Welcome! 6 02-16-2013 12:51 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:52 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2012 - JeepGarage.Org
The Jeep Grand Cherokee Owners Community

JeepGarage.org is in no way associated with or endorsed by FCA US LLC. Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, Ram, Mopar and SRT are registered trademarks of FCA US LLC.