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DUDE. I replaced a 2009 BMW X5 diesel with a 2011 Overland, ORII, Hemi, etc. etc. and i could not be happier. BMW truly makes an excellent car, I'm definitely going to miss those two turbos, that 425lb-ft. of torque and 650 miles/tank, but the new GC is an absolute beast. It's a tank (and handles like one too...) and is a superior vehicle in almost every respect to the X5. I am blown away by Jeeps new truck.
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Re: What car are you dumping to make room for you WK2?

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DUDE. I replaced a 2009 BMW X5 diesel with a 2011 Overland, ORII, Hemi, etc. etc. and i could not be happier. BMW truly makes an excellent car, I'm definitely going to miss those two turbos, that 425lb-ft. of torque and 650 miles/tank, but the new GC is an absolute beast. It's a tank (and handles like one too...) and is a superior vehicle in almost every respect to the X5. I am blown away by Jeeps new truck.
Can you elaborate on how it is superior to X5?
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Can you elaborate on how it is superior to X5?
Yea man.

Superior aspects:
It's much quieter at speed than the X5. When driving over the cobbles, there aren't any creaks or vibrations or anything of the sort. The steering is not as heavy and just as precise. The fit and finish of the interior looks better, feels better, and is more comfortable. The QL suspension is downright awesome. It has a Garmin nav interface (the X5's sucked, and updates were $$$). It has skid plates (i know the X5 is a soft-roader and the GC is an off-roader, but i find myself in the dirt more and more these days). The rear seats have a bunch of recline, and people don't bitch about having to sit in back anymore. IT HAS MORE CUP HOLDERS. The nav screen gets wayyyy dimmer than the lowest setting in the X5 (I like the cabin free of any harsh light at night). The EVIC gives me access to more temperatures (oil, coolant, trans, etc.) then the iDrive in the X5. The EVIC is way easier and much faster to use then iDrive, I can get tire pressures at all four corners way faster. The seats have higher and firmer bolsters. It has vented seats (I know they're an option for the X5, but it's $$$). The rests for my elbows and softer and in much better positions. The steering wheel telescopes farther out than in the X5, I'm 6'3" and I want my legs to be extended, but I want my arms relaxed with my elbows on the rests and my hands on the wheel. The GC's closer steering wheel makes this much easier. Built-in power inverter. More rear-seat leg room. The GC tows 7400lbs, the X5 is not rated for that. It's more torsionally rigid than the X5. It has a full 100 more horsepower than the diesel X5. It carries a full size spare (The X5 had NO spare because it had harsh run-flats). It has the ELSD, the X5 was very smart about tractions, but it had open diffs. It's solid and well designed. And the most important; it's made in America.

Same as the X5:
The headlights; they're both HID's from Valeo. The range of the wiper blades in both trucks cover the entire windshield. Both feel extremely well planted. Same-ish cargo area. They both come in white. iPod integration and bumpin' stereo. Real fat steering wheel. Delicious smelling leather. Heated steering wheel and front+rear seats. Big-ass brakes. Neat, clean and tidy under hood (everything is zip tied together and insulated or sheathed). Variable valve timing. Long sunroof.

Inferior to the X5:
The headlights don't swivel when you turn, the X5's ability to look around corners was really nice. The engine and trans; the X5 had a 260hp, 425lb-ft torque, twin turbo, I6 diesel mated to a 6 speed and it was wonderful, the 5.7L V8 is a great engine, but the diesel is better. 650 highway miles/tank; the X5 has a smaller fuel tank (22.5 gallons) but I could easily go 650 highway miles on a road trip without stopping. Handling; the X5 cornered like it was on rails, and at 70mph, was much more responsive then the GC. I know that this is the trade-off for offroad ability, so it doesn't bother me in the least. The seats; they're a lot firmer then the X5 and will just take some getting used to. The touch screen; although the X5's iDrive was awful, touch screen systems aint no prize either, and with an iPod hooked up in the GC, when you shut the truck off it resets to FM radio, you could leave the X5 for a month and when the radio turned on, it would be right where it left off in the middle of some song, it was slick. The GC is slower off the line, but they're both trucks with plenty of power, not sports cars, and the comparison of 0-60 times in this type of vehicle is stupid.

Except for a few minor things that come with the territory when buying a $60,000+ car, the GC is an all around BETTER vehicle. The superior aspects of the GC far outweigh the inferior aspects. And for 45k, its a no-brainer.

THAT is how it's better than a X5.
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Re: What car are you dumping to make room for you WK2?

rd that was an excellent comparison. In fact, it was a better comparison than any kind of "review" or "road test" I read while researching the JGC. The only thing you left out but probably can't honestly comment on yet is the long-term outlook for the JGC's reliability. My thoughts are it should be more reliable than what we've seen from Chrysler's past.
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rdmacneil, this was an interesting read.
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Re: What car are you dumping to make room for you WK2?

tossed my 2004 X5 4.8is for my overland hemi. 75k miles and the trans let go. also let go of my 1995 M3 race car. downsizing on the toys.
i miss my x5's 6th gear and (for an suv) nimble handling. MUCH more responsive than the jeep. that said, i don't miss my monthly $1000+ repair bills. (as much as $8000 one time for the frickin air suspension... no wonder i hunted down my overland without quadralift).
love the jeep. slowly thinking i need another little sports car again though.
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Trading in a bought-new 2000 Cherokee Classic with Selec-Trac and Trac-Lok with about 220,000 trouble free miles on in. A faithful ride that loves deep snow, but all good things must come to an end and I need a bigger back seat. Looking forward to a new Overland, my fourth Jeep.
That's always been one of my favorites. Hope you got a good trade-in value because you can usually sell them privately for pretty good money...
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I sold my 2005 WK 4.7 Laredo. Kept it in the family though; gave my dad a good deal! I got a blackberry Overland with the Hemi and nearly all the toys.
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