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Re: What you should always keep in your rig

Wow---lots of well prepared preppers out there. If I still had my Ram, I could fit everything everyone suggested in the bed and still not be over packed. Howver, space is limited in the Grand. This may require triage planning:

1) family trips on interstate and safe locals and local daily driving, Low threat.

2) family and exploratioon trips to some out of the way places---not intentionally going "slumming". Intermediate threat.

3) SHTF or exciting trips to the slums. Armed to the gills.

Pack your gear in containers according to threat/emergency levels so that you can just toss the container in or remove as necessary.
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Wow---lots of well prepared preppers out there. If I still had my Ram, I could fit everything everyone suggested in the bed and still not be over packed. Howver, space is limited in the Grand. This may require triage planning:

1) family trips on interstate and safe locals and local daily driving, Low threat.

2) family and exploratioon trips to some out of the way places---not intentionally going "slumming". Intermediate threat.

3) SHTF or exciting trips to the slums. Armed to the gills.

Pack your gear in containers according to threat/emergency levels so that you can just toss the container in or remove as necessary.

Good idea, but certain things will always be with us. I.E small first aid kit, new bottle jack, maglite, leatherman, first aid booklet, spare battery for phone water and snacks. Obviously, for more of an elaborate trek, going to dial up the survivalist in me and pack other items..

Seperate bins for what does't fit next to the spare tire... A+
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I used to feel that way too, but old age has affected both my physical abilities and my perspective about my own mortality.
Not old and in plenty good shape, but you cant be too careful with the looneys out there. Could I disarm a guy with a knife? Maybe. Could I point and pull the trigger? Absolutely.

Have never had to pull and dont plan to ever have to. But if I ever needed to, its comforting to know it's there.

Anyways, back on topic. I also keep a collapsible soft storage "box" in the back for extra stuff if needed. Pretty inexpensive on amazon and is a great way to easily move stuff in and out. It has handles, storage pockets and a divider.
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Re: What you should always keep in your rig

DirtyDuc is absoolutely right. There are looneys and just plain bad people who truly enjoy inflicting pain and suffering on innocent helpless folks. I used to travel out to BFE (Bumfuk, Egypt) to visit old mining camps and ghost towns armed with history books and travel guides. I would drive out alone just because it was hard to find anyone else who enjoyed the same thing. Oh, there's the saloon where One Eyed Jack shot Black Bart. Oh there's where the fabled gold mine shootout that killed 4 desperadoes. Look at these rusty old beer and food cans. They must be at least from the 1890s. Traveled out to Southern California's ghost towns like Randsburg, Garlock, and 4x4'ed to Burro Schmidt's Tunnel.

But being paranoid, I also noticed that many places were littered with new beer cans. Most places had untarnished shell casings from rifle, shotfun, and pistols----hhhmmmmm....bunch of young folks drinking and shooting in the middle of nowhere....mattresses and couches lying around and look fairly recent....possible sexual assault? I often carried a Les Baer .45 ACP with me.

Disarming a knife wielding assailant is a very bloodly, horrific task unless you are armed with at least a club, tactical 'hawk, or machete. I have seen enough pictures of hideous wounds from deep slashing cuts to the bone, guts barely contained from mid abdominal slices, flaps of muscle hanging loose almost hanging by some tendon. I'd take a gun wielding assailant anyday.

Your best weapon is your mind. Be a bit paranoid and plan accordingly. If it looks like a good place for an ambush---some one else has thought of it already. It might be just nothing or it just might be stumbling onto a outlaw gang meth lab, satanic groupies, or just plain dirtballs looking to "have some fun" with them city folks---"you shur got a purty mouth."
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DirtyDuc is absoolutely right. There are looneys and just plain bad people who truly enjoy inflicting pain and suffering on innocent helpless folks. I used to travel out to BFE (Bumfuk, Egypt) to visit old mining camps and ghost towns armed with history books and travel guides. I would drive out alone just because it was hard to find anyone else who enjoyed the same thing. Oh, there's the saloon where One Eyed Jack shot Black Bart. Oh there's where the fabled gold mine shootout that killed 4 desperadoes. Look at these rusty old beer and food cans. They must be at least from the 1890s. Traveled out to Southern California's ghost towns like Randsburg, Garlock, and 4x4'ed to Burro Schmidt's Tunnel.

But being paranoid, I also noticed that many places were littered with new beer cans. Most places had untarnished shell casings from rifle, shotfun, and pistols----hhhmmmmm....bunch of young folks drinking and shooting in the middle of nowhere....mattresses and couches lying around and look fairly recent....possible sexual assault? I often carried a Les Baer .45 ACP with me.

Disarming a knife wielding assailant is a very bloodly, horrific task unless you are armed with at least a club, tactical 'hawk, or machete. I have seen enough pictures of hideous wounds from deep slashing cuts to the bone, guts barely contained from mid abdominal slices, flaps of muscle hanging loose almost hanging by some tendon. I'd take a gun wielding assailant anyday.

Your best weapon is your mind. Be a bit paranoid and plan accordingly. If it looks like a good place for an ambush---some one else has thought of it already. It might be just nothing or it just might be stumbling onto a outlaw gang meth lab, satanic groupies, or just plain dirtballs looking to "have some fun" with them city folks---"you shur got a purty mouth."
Sounds like you have seen your fair share of the $hitty end of society. I certainly have, but the examples never ended that badly. I suppose my boxing/jiu jitsu training can get me only too far. Thats what the leathermen and tire iron is for.
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A lot of good stuff in here! Most of which I typically carry. Just a couple things/ thoughts to add:
Tire plug kit. Cheap and effective for small punctures but not permanent.
12v air compressor.
GU Energy gels (they take up little space, long shelf life and are easy to ration)
Tow strap
Folding multi-tool
Duct tape
Hose clamps (with the duct tape, you can patch a radiator hose puncture)
All the above fits around the spare tire.

Flashlight in the glove box
My fire extinguisher is mounted under the passenger seat, bolted to the battery cover. Fits snug, but is held in by 2 plastic straps. I have no doubt that I can snap it out in an emergency.
H&K Compact .40 within arms reach

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A lot of good stuff in here! Most of which I typically carry. Just a couple things/ thoughts to add:
Tire plug kit. Cheap and effective for small punctures but not permanent.
12v air compressor.
GU Energy gels (they take up little space, long shelf life and are easy to ration)
Tow strap
Folding multi-tool
Duct tape
Hose clamps (with the duct tape, you can patch a radiator hose puncture)
All the above fits around the spare tire.

Flashlight in the glove box
My fire extinguisher is mounted under the passenger seat, bolted to the battery cover. Fits snug, but is held in by 2 plastic straps. I have no doubt that I can snap it out in an emergency.
H&K Compact .40 within arms reach

Lord, I cant wait for Z day!
You gotta try to send me a pic of the mounting point under the passenger seat. That is perfect bc it will take up a lot of space in the back and want it accessible without using too much space.
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Re: What you should always keep in your rig

Medical gloves - good for medical and mechanical events

Ambu bag - do you want to do CPR on someone (you don't know) with mouth to mouth, or with your hand?

Ball hitch (so you can easily use your tow strap)

fix a flat - not for you, you have a spare, but for someone stranded... Or it you flat 2 tires at once on one big mountain rock... Bicycle tire pumps work great in a pinch, better than cheap battery powered pumps...
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Medical gloves - good for medical and mechanical events

Ambu bag - do you want to do CPR on someone (you don't know) with mouth to mouth, or with your hand?

Ball hitch (so you can easily use your tow strap)

fix a flat - not for you, you have a spare, but for someone stranded... Or it you flat 2 tires at once on one big mountain rock... Bicycle tire pumps work great in a pinch, better than cheap battery powered pumps...
A ball hitch is not designed for recovery ... can be dangerous.

That's what these are for;

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A ball hitch is not designed for recovery ... can be dangerous.

That's what these are for;

Only problem is, is that mine didn't come with the tow package. Will have to remedy that at some point. A shackle is a good idea..
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I like carrying barely anything in the trunk.

All I have are microfiber towels and detail spray. I'll look good while stranded.
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Only problem is, is that mine didn't come with the tow package. Will have to remedy that at some point. A shackle is a good idea..
I'm not suggesting everyone needs a shackle, or a trailer hitch by any means. Unless you are going on safari, I think many of the post here are way beyond what the title asks;

"What you should always keep in your rig"

But if you do have a trailer hitch, the ball is for towing while the shackle is for recovery.


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