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Which package for SNOW!?

I'm looking at the Overland and Overland Summit. But one of the major issues is my 2.4 miles of horrible road which can have enough snow to stop most AWD and lighter weight 4X4s.

So, what's the deal with the off-road package. The 20" wheels are nice, but I sure want those skid plates and tow hooks. Clearing trees from the road is a common factor.

Would the off road package be smarter or should I just get the 20" wheels and add Skid plates. What about Quadra drive vs. Quadra trac? Is the Quadra drive only part of the off-road package?

I thought I had a handle on the options....nope!


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Old 02-02-2012, 09:06 AM
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Re: Which package for SNOW!?

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I'm looking at the Overland and Overland Summit. But one of the major issues is my 2.4 miles of horrible road which can have enough snow to stop most AWD and lighter weight 4X4s.

So, what's the deal with the off-road package. The 20" wheels are nice, but I sure want those skid plates and tow hooks. Clearing trees from the road is a common factor.

Would the off road package be smarter or should I just get the 20" wheels and add Skid plates. What about Quadra drive vs. Quadra trac? Is the Quadra drive only part of the off-road package?

I thought I had a handle on the options....nope!


Thanks!


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i think it's much cheaper to go with the ORA II package than to add those things later. plus, based on what i've read, i think you'll want to go with an 18 in tire. there are many more options for tires than there are for the 20s. the 20s look awesome, but for what you are describing, i think you'll want a tire with more sidewall. from what people have said, the 20s seem to get through snow okay, but probably not other stuff. if you have the V8 then adding the ORA II package also gets you QDII (i think).
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:41 AM
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Re: Which package for SNOW!?

Quadra Drive is the Quadra Trac drive train with rear axle limited slip. For 2012 QD is only available on V8 JGCs with ORA II package (regardless of model) or the Summit package. The limited slip rear, which helps all the time, is most useful for deep snow/mud and/or slippy up hill grades.

The 18 inch wheels and tires are much better for horrible roads, but 20s work OK. Many in 2011 purchased the base Overland with its 20 inch tires, added skid plates/tow hooks, and purchased a set of 18 inch wheels to beat up off road... using the 20s for highway cruising. It was much less money than buying the Overland with ORA package and then adding 20 in wheels. But the availability of the ELSD is different for 2012.

Overland with ORA and Overland Summit are functionally identical as far as the drive train. The Summit ORA package may be a bit less money as the ELSD rear is standard on the V8. You don't have to get an Overland to get the Quadra Drive, however.

The Quadra Lift is useful for raising the vehicle to clear snow banks, or rocks, or to keep it out of snow drifts. QL is standard on Overlands, part of ORA II on other models.

So for the most capable drive train and best horrible road function, chose a V8 model with ORA II in any trim. The Summit package adds nothing to the Overland ORA drive train but you may want that style or set of options (Summit and the ORA packages together). Its easy to add skid plates to the Summit, tow hooks take some time. So you can have all the pieces of an ORA II equiped JGC except with 20 inch wheels if you so desire. Dealers are happy to instal the pieces for you, or perhaps swap out 18 inch wheels for 20s... for a price.
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Re: Which package for SNOW!?

^You still have a few options.

1) 20" Blizzaks are available and are likely enough for the 2.5 mile driveway.

2) The skids and tow hooks are reasonably priced aftermarket and simple installs. If you really want the 20" wheels or see a non-trail rated WK2 in stock in the config you want, it is an easy negotiation to have your dealer throw on the skids and hooks in the deal.

3) Yes the 18's with aggressive snow AT's or Blizzaks are best, you can either run 18's year round with AT's, or keep two sets of wheels and tires. The latter is what I and others do as many of us love the Oland 20" wheelset and prefer them for summer spirited driving.

Agree with Cold Case and JGC4eva about QD2 as optimal.

YMMV. The WK2 is tremendous in snow. Some other winter stuff here: http://jeepgarage.org/showthread.php...ght=Snow+beast

We just desperately need some snow so please do some dancing.
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Re: Which package for SNOW!?

I think on Laredo and Limited to get QDII = ELSD (electronic limited slip diff.) you have to get ORA II. Also note, ORA II includes the Quadra Lift Air Suspension (for Laredo or Limited) as well as Tow Group IV. It's a $2,195 MSRP option (for Laredo) and not sure the price on the Limited - could be the same price.

Get ORA on Overland to get QDII = ELSD but then you get 18" polished wheels (like the Limited stock wheels).

Get and Overland Summit to get QDII = ELSD and 20" polished wheels. Add ORA I to get 18" polished wheels.

2011 Overlands (even with 20" painted wheels) have QDII = ELSD.

Alll of the above only applies to the V8 Hemi, I think.
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Re: Which package for SNOW!?

While I have a Limited, even the QT 1 has received rave reviews in the snow- better than many competitors, so QT 2 will be fine tuning. I really doubt that you will need the ELSD for what you describe.
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Re: Which package for SNOW!?

The most important thing is to make sure you have a lockable center differential. If you have "snow" mode on the console, then you have the lockable center differential.
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