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Old 10-07-2012, 02:47 PM
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HYTEK yes it does feel like im dragging an anchor around! I understand the three differentials will rob power, but wasn't expecting it to feel like this.

Im hoping once I hit the 1,000 + mile mark it wakes up.

Good to see another 5.0 fan around the forums! It was a sad separation for me, but it just didn't fit my lifestyle, and in the 9 months I had it I put 2,300 miles on it. So that depreciating asset needed to go... sadly..
I hear ya, I loved mine but needed something more practical and my old XJ started needing major repairs so got rid of both for the WK2 Hemi. It was hard getting used to the shifting points of the auto trans coming from the 6sp manual 5.0 but now I've learned to make it shift how I want it to. You'll get used to it too....it just takes some miles. I just wish we could get a tuner already, I know this Hemi has so much more potential.
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Old 10-07-2012, 02:57 PM
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Re: Who has driven both V6 & V8 WK2's

This topic come up often here, about every other week or so. There have been some interesting threads in the past, plenty of comparisons. Most here don't bother replying to these threads any more... but they can get entertaining sometimes.

I drive both the V6 company WK2s and my V8 routinely.

The V6 has no knees, always needs revs to make power, always shifting in hilly terrain, annoyingly busy... the transmission/axle is geared to give you that quick off the line feel. It is a great transportation appliance, especially for the casual driver. Much of the driving satisfaction is tuned out in an attempt to maximize mpg but the fuel mileage is nothing to write home about.

The V8 is also a weak kneed high reving engine compared to torque monsters of the past but it pretty much loafs along in comparison to the V6. Its not as tiring to drive. It cruises effortlessly cross country, where the V6s have to work harder most of the time. You can easily squeal the tires for the high school crowd where the V6 is near impossible. You pay the $$$ premium for the V8.

In a 1/4 mile race, the V8 blows away the V6 by several car lengths.

I understand the CRD may be a better motor than either.
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Re: Who has driven both V6 & V8 WK2's

I think you need to take the overland into the shop. I don't think I could get my hemi down to 11 mpg if I tried and it has significantly more power than the v6 (my mother has the 3.6).

I honestly think the only way I could get mine down to 11 mpg would be to take it to a track day or leave it sitting idling for hours each day. I get 18 - 19 mpg in 50/50 city highway. The worst I have ever had was 16.6 when I had a ton of short trip city driving.
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Re: Who has driven both V6 & V8 WK2's

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I think you need to take the overland into the shop. I don't think I could get my hemi down to 11 mpg if I tried and it has significantly more power than the v6 (my mother has the 3.6).

I honestly think the only way I could get mine down to 11 mpg would be to take it to a track day or leave it sitting idling for hours each day. I get 18 - 19 mpg in 50/50 city highway. The worst I have ever had was 16.6 when I had a ton of short trip city driving.


11 MPG is crazy and something is wrong. Maybe the ECO mode is not working right. Saturday we drove to the poconos (long drive) and did just under 20 MPG doing between 75-80 MPH. On the way back (with a lot more level and downhill driving) we managed 22 mpg.
The lowest I saw was beating on the V8 in sport mode on local roads where it fell to nearly 16 MPG. If my Hemi was giving 11 MPG I'd take it back.


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+1 for the V8 in the Overland

My friend has a Overland with a V6 and I just bought the Overland with Hemi. Now maybe the V6 works a lot better with a stripped down Laredo since it does weigh quite a bit less, but if you go for the Overland package the V6 is a weaser.

This is most apparent on the highway when you're looking to kick down a gear or on hills. Someone said the V6 is very busy and in truth it's having a regular hissy fit when pushed.

The Hemi is FAR more relaxed and my friend prefers it to his V6 as I do. In fact he's dropping his lease early for a loaded Overland with the hemi.

I keep stressing this point: The Overland and the Overland Summit are luxury editions that compete very effectively against the LR4, Audi Q7 and most other mid sized SUV's. With the Hemi it outclasses many of them. With the air suspension and capable 4x4 system it absolutely outclasses most of them. To put it bluntly, the V6 cripples the Overland package.

BUT...if you're getting the significantly lighter package then the V6 may be all you'll ever need.


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Re: Who has driven both V6 & V8 WK2's

i must agree, i have a 2012 overland hemi, my wife has a 2011 overland summit v6, my hemi mpg is 17, my wifes is 24 mpg. all in all around town driving is alot alike. More punch to get out and go on the highway with the hemi. but the v6 to me is no dog.
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Re: Who has driven both V6 & V8 WK2's

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i must agree, i have a 2012 overland hemi, my wife has a 2011 overland summit v6, my hemi mpg is 17, my wifes is 24 mpg. all in all around town driving is alot alike. More punch to get out and go on the highway with the hemi. but the v6 to me is no dog.

I agree. my overland v6 moves out when I stomp on it. I drove my coworkers v8 overland. Sure it has some more torque of the line but in all reality, it wasnt much faster 0-60.

I don't tow anything. I have no hills around here either. Good to go and save a bunch of $ in gas.
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Re: Who has driven both V6 & V8 WK2's

I do wonder how much is perception. The hemi def has a nicer sound and more torque feeling. I drove a 2012 altitude hemi and then a 2012 v6. The hemi seemed to have less lag and more pull, but by no means was the v6 a dog. I'm surprised at how some say its weak or underpowered. The v6 has almost 300hp and is very enjoyable to drive, and while I imagine the 8 speed transmission will be better suited to the pentastar the 5speed has been very smooth. I would like to drive the 2012 v6 again because I ended up buying a 2013 v6 limited and perception must be the reason because the 13 feels like it pulls a little better than the 12. I read through all the changes and I don't think anything changed in the my13 that would confirm this. I'm guessing it was the certain speed I was going on the test drive or way I was driving. Either way my 13 has been a pleasure to drive and to get 26mpg highway on a recent trip, in a rugged SUV this size, that's pretty great. If your stuck between the two choices don't look it at a v6 vs v8 battle, like some treat it on here. Just look at it like jeep is offering two great choices and you can't lose with either one.

The hemi pulls hard, sounds great, tows more, and still manages a decent fuel economy, tow haul mode, 6sp transmission, dual exhaust, takes premium fuel

The pentastar pulls fine, and has all out surprised me off the line and in various driving situations, handles a little better given the less weight in front, is a more modern engine and supposedly less maintenance but only time will tell, and has been getting really great fuel economy. Has tip tronic type shifting, runs great on 87 octane. Both are great, and the wk2 is an awesome ride. Enjoy either one you decide on.
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Re: Who has driven both V6 & V8 WK2's

Go with whatever you feel is more important, More power + less mpg, or less power and more mpg.

I have the V6 and I feel it is enough power for me. I drive in the mountains a lot (CO) and I do experience what some have brought up about high RPM's when downshifting or having it on cruise control, but it is not happening all the time. Mostly only on the steep 7% grades or something like that.

As far as MPG, with my mostly city driving (9 miles to work each way in pretty much stop and go) my last few tanks have been 19.4, 18.8, 18.5, etc. Lowest was 16.6 but that was my very first fill up.

I see the Hemi as a luxury. If you don't mind the mpg and want a little extra go-power, then get the Hemi. The v6 is fine in all applications otherwise. If not, they wouldn't have made it the Top of the Line engine in the Wranglers. If it has enough power for a Rubicon 4-door, it has enough power for a Grand Cherokee.
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Re: Who has driven both V6 & V8 WK2's

My test ride was in a V6 Overland and I was not disappointed with the performance. While I opted for the V8, that was because I have a towing need that is best served by the larger engine and tow capacity. Otherwise, I would have been perfectly happy with the v6. I do get about 16mpg in general driving in this rural area and 20+ on the highway with my Hemi.
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Re: Who has driven both V6 & V8 WK2's

I test drove both and while the hemi was somewhat more responsive, I was impressed with the V6. I don't tow with my summit and elected to go with the V6 and I'm happy with it.

I feel like I'm driving a rocket ship compared to my last truck.

My last truck weighed in at 8800 pounds, had the Detroit 6.5 turbo diesel coupled to the 4L80E 4-speed trans.

195 HP, 430 lb. ft. torque

0-60 MPH 15.1

Quarter mile 19.7

Not fast by any means, but it sure could tow and performed very well off-road.
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Re: Who has driven both V6 & V8 WK2's

Having some time on my hands since I got laid off a few weeks ago I went for a drive this morning (V-8). I got on a few straightaways and gunned it while it was simply in Auto mode. Excellent power and it really hauled butt with a very nice rumble. On the way back I put it in Sport mode and by the time I put the brakes on I had a huge smile on my face. I Sport mode you can really feel bit of power that Hemi gives you.

No offense but I think people who say the V-8 is really lacking in power they are downright nuts.
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