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Re: Who has driven both V6 & V8 WK2's

I wonder what the numbers are for a v8 4x2 Laredo with a normal sunroof? Have to be slightly faster due to the weight savings. Might be a high 14 sec 1/4 mile.
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Re: Who has driven both V6 & V8 WK2's

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I wonder what the numbers are for a v8 4x2 Laredo with a normal sunroof? Have to be slightly faster due to the weight savings. Might be a high 14 sec 1/4 mile.


Assuming you don't get wheel spin you might really fly, but I'd expect a nice advantage at speed, from 60-90 MPH.


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Old 10-09-2012, 09:24 PM
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Re: Who has driven both V6 & V8 WK2's

I know for sure my Jeep is in the low 15/high 14 second range. Most people here haven't felt the Hemi in an Altitude with just 4x2. With bolt ons and a tune it will turn into a relatively nice "street" SUV.

I drove a WK1 SRT, WK2 3.6 and a WK2 5.7 all on the same day. I felt a HUGE difference between the v6 and v8's. I don't care about gas mileage so it was an easy choice for me being they were basically the same cost with incentives.
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Re: Who has driven both V6 & V8 WK2's

I bought the heep as a touring/tow/driver car and like it better every day. Am biased, my first car had a DOHC 3.4 6 and a four speed with overdrive. Had several like that.

Been towing with a 3.8 V6 since the last decade, major difference is that it had three rows of seats (think I used twice).

Like RR, I find the power "adequate" and the MPG stellar.

Besides if I want 400+ hp and a 4-speed, I have a different ride.
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Old 10-10-2012, 11:18 AM
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I got 21.5 mpg with my Hemi running 70 mph on the Highway. Why would I ever want a V6? Again if you want adequate...which seems to be the norm, get the V6. I don't want adequate. I have always opted for the engine upgrade on any vehicle I have bought.
That figure is JUST ON THE HIGHWAY. What is your real world MPG? Including city and urban driving with lots of stop and go traffic. You know, the world the other 99.9% of us drive in. What's that number? I know my truck only sees the highway about 25% of the time, and for the big vacation road trips, which happens once or twice a year. The rest of the time, my truck is in the dirt, or trucking around the city doing 25-35 mph, then I get to the suburban areas where it's stop and go to 45 mph alot. You should see the driveway to my cabin in the mountians. Iv'e been there a few times with my V6 WK2. It's deep mud, huge holes and up the side of a river bank, then you have to cross the creek. The lower your vehicle, the further down the side of the creek you have to drive, and all two wheel drive vehicles get stuck. I've had tons of friends try to get to the cabin in their sports cars, pick up trucks, you name it. 2 wheel drives have to park at the creek, and either hike up the rest of the 6 miles or wait until I come down there to get them. I'm not sure of the grade of the bank coming up the other side of the creek is, but it's enough to scare everyone who doesn't drive off road much. The V6 WK2 pulls great up and over, fully loaded with gear and people, and I strap towed a BMW X3 all the way back to the highway because it was having a transmission overheating issue or something and kept freezing up. He had to keep it in neutral until I got him to the road where a tow truck was waiting. Then we transferred all thier stuff to the Jeep, dropped it into 4 wheel Low and rode it like a 4 second bull all the way up the side of the mountain like that. I've even driven it though the middle of the paths to try and get it stuck and we just move right through it. It really is amazing. Iv'e had other 4x4 trucks, but they never made it this dang easy! And this last year was the worst I've ever seen our driveway get. I normally have to have a dirt plow come and regrade the road each spring. Heck, it's more fun to save that money and just take the Jeep! LOL!!!
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Re: Who has driven both V6 & V8 WK2's

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That figure is JUST ON THE HIGHWAY. What is your real world MPG?
My hemi gets 18 - 19 mpg in mixed 50/50 city and highway. Most of my trips are long ( over 10 miles). I work early so traffic is pretty light.

My worst tank was 16.6 mpg (many short trips) and my best tank was 26 mpg (single all highway trip).

The hemi gets great mileage for a v8 as long as you can cruise and keep it in MDS. Very short trips and heavy stop and go drastically reduces the economy. It's under those conditions the v6 does better.
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I know for sure my Jeep is in the low 15/high 14 second range. Most people here haven't felt the Hemi in an Altitude with just 4x2. With bolt ons and a tune it will turn into a relatively nice "street" SUV.

I drove a WK1 SRT, WK2 3.6 and a WK2 5.7 all on the same day. I felt a HUGE difference between the v6 and v8's. I don't care about gas mileage so it was an easy choice for me being they were basically the same cost with incentives.

That's a good point. I paid less for my Overland Hemi with all of the incentives and the resale will be better as well. It was a no brainer after I realized that the 6 didn't get much better MPG.
This is a rather silly debate. The V8 is nicer in EVERY way. It's smoother, stronger, faster and makes the WK2 feel more refined. But it COSTS more to feed. Some folks will pay for such things and others won't. There's no wrong choice, only the choice that's right for YOU!

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Re: Who has driven both V6 & V8 WK2's

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Weight factors taken into consideration ...

Were they?

740 lbs is the weight of almost FOUR LARGE people. Load up that V6 with four additional folks (for a total of 5 including yourself) and drive it again. I'm betting you'll have a better understanding.

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This debate is silly. Ppl buy the v6 for their reasons, ppl buy the v8 for their reasons. PPL also buy what theu can afford. I have had a full load of ppl and luggage in my v6, and it had no problems. in the end it is personal preferance. I dont tow, I dont off road, I dont race, I dont need added fuel costs, hence I got the v6. I think its time this thread goes to rest

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Re: Who has driven both V6 & V8 WK2's

Yes, silly but fun to hear all the differing opinions. At the end of the day there is no definitive answer as to what is the better choice.

Having said that, I will now say all the hemi owners made the best possible choice and us Pentastar owners are just not the sharpest knives in the drawer.

Personally, money was no object. I just bought what I wanted so that makes me really dull.
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That's a good point. I paid less for my Overland Hemi with all of the incentives and the resale will be better as well. It was a no brainer after I realized that the 6 didn't get much better MPG.
This is a rather silly debate. The V8 is nicer in EVERY way. It's smoother, stronger, faster and makes the WK2 feel more refined. But it COSTS more to feed. Some folks will pay for such things and others won't. There's no wrong choice, only the choice that's right for YOU!

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What makes you think it will have higher resale? THere's a reason why you paid less and why they are selling for the same as the V6 models. Hello, more people prefer the V6. My local dealer sells almost 10 V6s for every V8 wk2 and that was never the case with previous models. I'm a perfect example...last two jeeps were V8, and now the V6. They would have sold me a Hemi overland for less than $500 difference but I wanted the V6.

The hemi will be less desired by most come resale unlike before especially when gas hits $5/gal.

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Personally, money was no object. I just bought what I wanted so that makes me really dull.
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[QUOTE=ajs800;695257]What makes you think it will have higher resale? THere's a reason why you paid less and why they are selling for the same as the V6 models. Hello, more people prefer the V6. My local dealer sells almost 10 V6s for every V8 wk2 and that was never the case with previous models. I'm a perfect example...last two jeeps were V8, and now the V6. They would have sold me a Hemi overland for less than $500 difference but I wanted the V6.

The hemi will be less desired by most come resale unlike before especially when gas hits $5/gal.>>>



I heard this when gas hot 2 bucks a gallon and again at 4. But the fact remains that bigger engines tend to bring higher resale, along with heated seats, Nav and other nice frills.
I paid less because I'm good at buying cars and timed it right. The V8 will always have higher resale. My buddy has the 2011 6 and it's worth less than the same year 8. He looked into a buyout, then trade. He wants the 8 now!


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