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Old 10-10-2012, 07:50 PM
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Re: Who has driven both V6 & V8 WK2's

I agree regarding the gas prices but the old adage of the v8 holding higher value is old news. Compare the old limiteds with v8 compared to the v6 5 yrs ago...the price diff was substantial and nothing like today's models. If the market demanded it and put a premium on the v8, it would not be selling for approx the same price as the v6 is currently.

Another perfect example is look at the new ford ecoboost...the v6 f150 has a higher sticker price over the same v8 version.

Don't get me wrong, there is definitely a place for the hemi, but for everyday driving folks the difference is not like it once was.

they are both solid options and I'll leave it there.

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Old 10-10-2012, 07:56 PM
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Re: Who has driven both V6 & V8 WK2's

I was a kid when the Hemi was "The Engine". Now that I'm a lot older, and have never had a Hemi, I figure this might be my last chance.

I never buy a vehicle (or anything else) based on what the resale value might be. I buy what I want and don't really care what the next guy wants.
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I was a kid when the Hemi was "The Engine". Now that I'm a lot older, and have never had a Hemi, I figure this might be my last chance.

I never buy a vehicle (or anything else) based on what the resale value might be. I buy what I want and don't really care what the next guy wants.

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This is not your fathers 426 Hemi, though I think there is no comparison to the V6.
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Old 10-11-2012, 09:24 AM
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My hemi gets 18 - 19 mpg in mixed 50/50 city and highway. Most of my trips are long ( over 10 miles). I work early so traffic is pretty light.

My worst tank was 16.6 mpg (many short trips) and my best tank was 26 mpg (single all highway trip).

The hemi gets great mileage for a v8 as long as you can cruise and keep it in MDS. Very short trips and heavy stop and go drastically reduces the economy. It's under those conditions the v6 does better.
You see, your actually making my point. If you drive the Hemi carefully, and don't actually use all that power at stop lights and passing alot, and you granny drive it, then sure, maybe with a constant tail wind and down hill both ways to and from work, where your not actually using all that power the Hemi makes, 18 mpg is possible. But I like to drive my Jeep like a truck and not give any thought my fuel mileage. I drive 25% on the highway, the rest of the time it's in the city doing stop and go to 35, then it's suburban driving with urban sprawl, so it's miles and miles of winding double lane traffic, stop and go to 45 mph, and the rest of the time it's in the dirt, off road, where I rarely go over 45 mph again. I'll challenge anyone to follow me around with their Hemi 4x4 for a month and show me where they are getting more than 13 mpg.
Listen for those who want to take up the defense, my younger brother has a 12' WK2 Hemi Lerado 4x4. I drive his, he drives mine, we follow each other to the woods with our friends to go fishing, hiking and camping, surfing, Kayaking, you name it. We just put 28+ thousand miles on both our trucks in less than a year. If your just doing highway trips, towing alot of heavy trailers, then the Hemi is a good option. Problem is that only fits less than 1% of real car buyers. If your more like me who actaully uses the WK2 for it's intended purposes, the V6 is the middle ground for alot of good in both worlds. When we spend most of the days off road, I'm still getting 16-17 mpg's. He's down around 9 or 10. We've done direct fuel bill comparisons after our trips. He averages twice my bill. In some cases, that was $500.00 just in fuel during one trip! Going down those slow dirt trails costs alot more in the Hemi also.
Our driveway to the cabin is 32 miles long, (From the point you leave paved roads, then 10 miles down is our gate, then a 22 mile corkscrew up the mountian side, across a creek that I should put a bridge over, but have way more fun like this. It's all 10-15 mph all the way up. In my V6 Overland, it takes about 3.5-4 hours to make that drive, and I use less than 4 gallons to get to the cabin. My brothers Wk2 uses almost 9 gallons to make the same trip. Coming down he uses about 8. That's 17 gallons just to get up and back to the edge of the road. Now you have a 65 mile trek into town for the nearest gas station. He makes it, but I still have just under a half a tank of gas. This is the new normal when we go anywhere from the cabin. Even he admits, it's really not worth all the hassle for just a little more power that we really never use other than for that "feeling" of get up and go. Just in the reciepts we have now, from the traveling we have already done, My V6 has cost us $3,000.00 less in fuel in just one year. My brother and I have stayed in the same cabin, gone on the same trips. That's alot of cash I keep on hand for the next vehicle I choose to get, with multiple hotel upgrades along the way.
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You see, your actually making my point. If you drive the Hemi carefully, and don't actually use all that power at stop lights and passing alot, and you granny drive it, then sure, maybe with a constant tail wind and down hill both ways to and from work, where your not actually using all that power the Hemi makes, 18 mpg is possible. But I like to drive my Jeep like a truck and not give any thought my fuel mileage. I drive 25% on the highway, the rest of the time it's in the city doing stop and go to 35, then it's suburban driving with urban sprawl, so it's miles and miles of winding double lane traffic, stop and go to 45 mph, and the rest of the time it's in the dirt, off road, where I rarely go over 45 mph again. I'll challenge anyone to follow me around with their Hemi 4x4 for a month and show me where they are getting more than 13 mpg.
Listen for those who want to take up the defense, my younger brother has a 12' WK2 Hemi Lerado 4x4. I drive his, he drives mine, we follow each other to the woods with our friends to go fishing, hiking and camping, surfing, Kayaking, you name it. We just put 28+ thousand miles on both our trucks in less than a year. If your just doing highway trips, towing alot of heavy trailers, then the Hemi is a good option. Problem is that only fits less than 1% of real car buyers. If your more like me who actaully uses the WK2 for it's intended purposes, the V6 is the middle ground for alot of good in both worlds. When we spend most of the days off road, I'm still getting 16-17 mpg's. He's down around 9 or 10. We've done direct fuel bill comparisons after our trips. He averages twice my bill. In some cases, that was $500.00 just in fuel during one trip! Going down those slow dirt trails costs alot more in the Hemi also.
Our driveway to the cabin is 32 miles long, (From the point you leave paved roads, then 10 miles down is our gate, then a 22 mile corkscrew up the mountian side, across a creek that I should put a bridge over, but have way more fun like this. It's all 10-15 mph all the way up. In my V6 Overland, it takes about 3.5-4 hours to make that drive, and I use less than 4 gallons to get to the cabin. My brothers Wk2 uses almost 9 gallons to make the same trip. Coming down he uses about 8. That's 17 gallons just to get up and back to the edge of the road. Now you have a 65 mile trek into town for the nearest gas station. He makes it, but I still have just under a half a tank of gas. This is the new normal when we go anywhere from the cabin. Even he admits, it's really not worth all the hassle for just a little more power that we really never use other than for that "feeling" of get up and go. Just in the reciepts we have now, from the traveling we have already done, My V6 has cost us $3,000.00 less in fuel in just one year. My brother and I have stayed in the same cabin, gone on the same trips. That's alot of cash I keep on hand for the next vehicle I choose to get, with multiple hotel upgrades along the way.

Yawn....is your other car a Prius? If you are concerned about gas mileage why did you buy a Jeep?
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Old 10-11-2012, 10:35 AM
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Yawn....is your other car a Prius? If you are concerned about gas mileage why did you buy a Jeep?
Maybe if your reading comprehension was above the 1st grade, you would be able to answer your own question.
I actually own a 1000+ hp Turbo IS300 for the 1/4 mile track. I have a 1969 Camaro and a 1972 Cuda waiting to be restored. I have a 1946 one ton Ford Panel truck, and I just so happen to have a picture of my latest work sporting it's new paint job. It's not done yet. I just wanted to get this out on the road for a drive. If you saw this when I started......
I also own a 2004 GMC 16 foot box truck, a 2008 Lexus IS 350, a 2008 Volkswagon Jetta, and my dad, who suffers from the effects of cancer and stays in our home, is a pretty well respected custom Ford Mustang builder, and has several 6 second Mustangs and a very rare 1968 Cobra GT 500-KR with the original 428 Cobra Jet motor and a 4 speed manual.
What does any of this have to do with my purchasing a WK2?
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Maybe if your reading comprehension was above the 1st grade, you would be able to answer your own question.
I actually own a 1000+ hp Turbo IS300 for the 1/4 mile track. I have a 1969 Camaro and a 1972 Cuda waiting to be restored. I have a 1946 one ton Ford Panel truck, and I just so happen to have a picture of my latest work sporting it's new paint job. It's not done yet. I just wanted to get this out on the road for a drive. If you saw this when I started......
I also own a 2004 GMC 16 foot box truck, a 2008 Lexus IS 350, a 2008 Volkswagon Jetta, and my dad, who suffers from the effects of cancer and stays in our home, is a pretty well respected custom Ford Mustang builder, and has several 6 second Mustangs and a very rare 1968 Cobra GT 500-KR with the original 428 Cobra Jet motor and a 4 speed manual.
What does any of this have to do with my purchasing a WK2?
Try reading your won post and explain why all you talk about is gas mileage and how much you save with the V6. I rest my case. Get a life.
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Try reading your won post and explain why all you talk about is gas mileage and how much you save with the V6. I rest my case. Get a life.
I'm sorry I hurt your feelings.. Driving the V6 makes it so I can afford more toys, and do more racing and other things, so I already have a nice life.
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If you're not concerned about gas mileage, can afford the additional upfront cost of the Hemi, aren't bothered by the more costly spark plug maintenance, or you have a need for heavy towing, without a doubt, get the freakin Hemi. If you are concerned with those things, get the V6. It's that simple. Sheesh!

Personally, I'd never get a V6 with a vehicle of this weight (especially the Overland). I learned my lesson with the V6 Dodge Dakota Quad Cab 4x4 I owned prior to the Jeep. All the downshifting drove me absolutely nuts! Not to mention it standing still on a steep incline in reverse with the pedal to the floor!
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If you're not concerned about gas mileage, can afford the additional upfront cost of the Hemi, aren't bothered by the more costly spark plug maintenance, or you have a need for heavy towing, without a doubt, get the freakin Hemi. If you are concerned with those things, get the V6. It's that simple. Sheesh!

Personally, I'd never get a V6 with a vehicle of this weight (especially the Overland). I learned my lesson with the V6 Dodge Dakota Quad Cab 4x4 I owned prior to the Jeep. All the downshifting drove me absolutely nuts! Not to mention it standing still on a steep incline in reverse with the pedal to the floor!
You mean the Dakota model that came with the 200 hp V6 in a 4800 +lbs. vehicle? and the 300 hp V8? That one? LOL!
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You mean the Dakota model that came with the 200 hp V6 in a 4800 +lbs. vehicle? and the 300 hp V8? That one? LOL!
I had a 2004. The 3.7 V6 put out 210hp. However the 4.7 V8 that was available that year wasn't a whole lot better at 235hp. For a V6, the gas mileage was terrible. I get about the same with the Hemi.
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