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Old 10-07-2012, 11:29 AM
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Who has driven both V6 & V8 WK2's

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Yesterday I was dumbfounded at the power of the V6 WK2 motor! My close friends decided to purchase a WK2 after we all got in and drove to dinner and movie. Last night they showed me there True Blue Laredo 4x2 V6.

Long story short, I was blocked in my driveway and took the Laredo to buy some wine. WOW! That V6 feels alive and amplified! I touched the accl. pedal and it just took off, no hesitations, rough shifts, nada!

Mine feels like a dog, it's slow, guzzles gas (I am averaging 11mpg), the trans has rough shifts and delays between gears.

Sorry for the rant, im not a happy camper right now.
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Old 10-07-2012, 11:39 AM
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Re: Who has driven both V6 & V8 WK2's

Keep in mind that a Overland hemi 4x4 is 740 lbs heavier than a Laredo 4x2. It needs a hemi.

From 2012 spec. sheet:
2WD Laredo 3.6-liter 4470 lbs
4WD Overland 5.7-liter 5210 lbs


Also just noticed something very interesting. If you look at HEMI Torque Curve from dyno ).

Sorry, looked at the hp rather than torque line, Hemi has over 300 lb-ft over its usable range so must be the weight difference.
Which leads to an interesting thought about the 8speed and same-same gears in 2014. Are they going to slow the V6 down ?
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Old 10-07-2012, 11:42 AM
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Re: Who has driven both V6 & V8 WK2's

I drove both and had the exact opposite experience. You've got to think about, you drove a base 4x2 v6, it likely weighs damn near 1000 pounds less than a v8 4x4 Overland.

I drove a v6 Overland Summit and a v8 Summit, the v6 felt like a dog. It got around town fine, but not with any authority and not with any gusto. Going up hills was a high rpm experience, and I got the distinct feeling that with any additional weight (ie other people, dog, luggage, etc.) that it would have been significantly hampered.

FWIW, a lot of it will come down t driving style as well. If you romp on the loud pedal, it will learn you like to drive fast. When I put mine into "Sport" mode, it's like a whole different (fuel hungry) beast.

Don't you have only a couple hundred miles on yours? It will take a little bit of time for the engine to break in and such. I get about 14mpg, almost all city with very short distances (literally it's like 5 miles each way). When I was on the highways cruising in Florida, I got 24mpg.

EDIT: Padgett beat me to it
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Old 10-07-2012, 12:03 PM
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Re: Who has driven both V6 & V8 WK2's

Weight factors taken into consideration I was just shocked at the lively hood of that V6.
With an Overland beast like mine, I went with the hemi simply because I knew a 4x4 system AND all the optional goodies would add a significant amount to the vehicles curb weight.

Im really hoping that once I get over 1k miles the engine and drivetrain start to level out both with improved MPG and performance. -- Cant wait for my Volant and Gibson systems to arrive!
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I habe a v6 and I think it does just fine and manages itself just fine, and this is coming from somone whose previous.car was a 12 second subaru

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Re: Who has driven both V6 & V8 WK2's

^^ Me too, my last sports car was a 2012 Mustang GT 5.0 tuned and was a 11 sec car.

All my V8s have been lively and powerful. My Mustang of course was tuned for performance, however my 08 Lexus GX470 has a 4.7 V8, weighs about the same as this car, and I think if we were to drag them, the GX would take the prize. Which when I bought this Jeep was expecting the exact opposite.
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Re: Who has driven both V6 & V8 WK2's

The Jeep never feels fast, largely due to its weight and suspension tuning. You never feel any weight transfer, and so it feels slower than it is. Once you're out of the break in it will loosen up. You could line my Overland 4x4 v8 up against the GX470 and I can guarantee the Jeep would win.

Back to the suspension tuning, your Jeep also has the air suspension, where theirs does not. So it's highly probable that you feel more weigh transfer in theirs. I bet if you lined the two up, the Hemi would walk away from the V6.

It's all about the perception. Years ago my friend had an Integra LS he modded pretty heavily. When you were in it, you would swear it was hugely fast. But the reality was, my '95 Explorer V6 would roast it in a drag race. But because his car was light, low, and loud, it felt faster by a lot.
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Re: Who has driven both V6 & V8 WK2's

The V6 has plenty of power for around town family SUV.

IMO
If your looking to tow then you need the V8.
If your looking to race and take the curves, you need the SRT8.
If you need a get around in bad weather get the QT1
If you off-road get the QL2 and 18" rims not 20".

Get my point....sometimes its mental....its a feeling of having the V8....having the off-road capablity...ect.

Its an SUV that has many capabilities but some of them capabilities come with a price tag attached. Get the options you need not the options that give you bragging rights and you'll feel good when the monthly payment is due each month.

For me it was the Laredo E with the V6 4x4 QT1, Nav, sun roof, 20" rims, remote start and cloth seats.
Everything I need and nothing I don't.
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Re: Who has driven both V6 & V8 WK2's

I had the 5.7 in my 06 WK. When shopping new WK2s I drove the 5.7 first. I was 100% sure I was getting the Hemi. It felt a little more sluggish than the 06 but still smooth. I drove the 3.6 just to say I did. Maybe my expectations were WAY low but the V6 impressed the hell out of me. I never got better than 16mpg out of my 06 Hemi and the V6 had pretty good mileage estimates. I went with the V6 mainly because I hated the trans mounted with the V8. 100% happy. That being said, if the new 8 speed ZF is mated with 5.7 in the newer ones I may go with the 5.7 on next one. I love the 3.6/ZF combo and it's just gonna get better with more gears. If towing go with V8 for sure. Either one you cant go wrong with.
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^^ Me too, my last sports car was a 2012 Mustang GT 5.0 tuned and was a 11 sec car.
I traded my 11 5.0 for mine too lol. The Hemi is no slug but it's definitely not a 5.0. At first mine felt like it was dragging an anchor at times. Now that I have about 2400 miles on and the ECU has learned my driving habits it's a whole different beast and I swear it's getting better every day.

Btw your mpgs should get a little better. My last 3 fill ups averaged 14-15 where in my first 1k miles I was lucky to get 12-13.
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Re: Who has driven both V6 & V8 WK2's

For me towing will probably never happen in this car.. If its lucky maybe some jet skis, or a small u-haul tops.

I dont have kids, however I settled on the Hemi because when friends and I go to the mountains or go road-tripping to Vegas I most likely will end up driving. So I wanted to be able to have a bunch of stored power when I need it be it on the highway or mountain pass.
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I traded my 11 5.0 for mine too lol. The Hemi is no slug but it's definitely not a 5.0. At first mine felt like it was dragging an anchor at times. Now that I have about 2400 miles on and the ECU has learned my driving habits it's a whole different beast and I swear it's getting better every day.

Btw your mpgs should get a little better. My last 3 fill ups averaged 14-15 where in my first 1k miles I was lucky to get 12-13.
HYTEK yes it does feel like im dragging an anchor around! I understand the three differentials will rob power, but wasn't expecting it to feel like this.

Im hoping once I hit the 1,000 + mile mark it wakes up.

Good to see another 5.0 fan around the forums! It was a sad separation for me, but it just didn't fit my lifestyle, and in the 9 months I had it I put 2,300 miles on it. So that depreciating asset needed to go... sadly..
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