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Why I change my own oil, well, one of many reasons...

A few days ago I did my first at home oil change on our '14 Overland Hemi. Althhough I have always done my own oil changes, we got some oil changes included on the purchase and my wife wanted to make sure to take full advantage of them, even though in my opinion it is a huge waste of time to schedule, drive to the dealer and wait for them. She sees it as doing me a favor to not have to work on it.

Anyway, I did the usual half hour wait after a drive to have the oil warm, but not hot and then went to change it. What an easy job it should be with the drain plug and filter easily accessible through the access hole in the belly pan (that SHOULD have a cover, but doesn't - pet peeve). Well, it seems that the guy that did the job last time decided that the plug should be REALLY tight so it didn't leak. I shattered a 6 point 3/8" drive 13mm Craftsman socket on the end of a long Snap On ratchet on the DRAIN PLUG with a rubber O ring! What the %@#$! Considering it has a plastic pan, I was really afraid the pan was going to break, but then pulled out a 1/2" drive impact socket on the end of a 2' breaker bar. My guess is that it took 250+ ft-lbs to break it loose. Like axle bolt tight. That deformed the head of the plug, so now I need a new plug as well, but at least the pan didn't break.

To balance out the tight plug they left the filter barely finger tight and dripping. We are very lucky that it didn't blow out the seal. Stupid stuff like that can end with blown engines.

I guess my wife was right, it IS a big hassle for me to change oil on the Jeep. In this case because I have to go to Sears to get a replacement socket and to get a new drain plug. Needless to say, our Jeep won't be getting oil changes at the dealer ever again...

PS, for the record, it got a factory filter and Mobil 1 5W-20.

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Re: Why I change my own oil, well, one of many reasons...

I suggest you replace the oil drain plug with a Fumoto valve.

https://youtu.be/VHIoQb2WPL0
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Re: Why I change my own oil, well, one of many reasons...

Glad to see you changing your own oil I feel the same way about turning my vehicle over to the least skilled people in the whole dealership to work on it. Always amazes me how they can mess up things as simple as an oil change.

I agree with the above on the fumoto valve, quicker and takes the mess out of it. also you can hook a tube to it and drain it right into your jug if you want to.
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I share your pet peeve on the belly pan door missing this is what I did to fix. just seems strange for them to leave a big hole there to fill with crap when you are using your jeep as a jeep.
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Re: Why I change my own oil, well, one of many reasons...

I second the Fumoto, I have used them on all my vehicles (gas and diesel) and it makes the oil change even easier. I currently have one on my 2014 Summit Ecodiesel and love it.
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Re: Why I change my own oil, well, one of many reasons...

I do my own oil for the same reason. When I had my "Free" oil changes on new VW they stripped the plug.


I do my own tire rotation, switch tires in the winter etc.
I've had to use 4 ft pipes to break lugs loose after having any service done by Jeep or VW that involves removing a wheel. This is immediately after getting home. So no rust or seizing is at play.


Plain fact is, anyone that uses impact wrenches for work are friggin lazy to use them properly.


I have a pet peeve with screw guns too. I just had new AC installed and EVERY friggin screw they touched on any part of the system is stripped.


I won't even let the sales person screw the license plate on. I Guarantee he'd strip the thread or the head.


There torque "clutch" is the threads stripping.
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I second the Fumoto, I have used them on all my vehicles (gas and diesel) and it makes the oil change even easier. I currently have one on my 2014 Summit Ecodiesel and love it.

Which one did you get? I'd like to order one but don't know if a normal one works, right angle, etc... I'd probably prefer one with a nipple on it for a hose to attach and drain straight into a catch can for easy disposal.
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Which one did you get? I'd like to order one but don't know if a normal one works, right angle, etc... I'd probably prefer one with a nipple on it for a hose to attach and drain straight into a catch can for easy disposal.
I did the F106S valve with the L-001 plastic elbow for the hemi. plastic elbow will pop off if the hose ever gets yanked on for any reason and prevents the valve damage.
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Re: Why I change my own oil, well, one of many reasons...

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I suggest you replace the oil drain plug with a Fumoto valve.

https://youtu.be/VHIoQb2WPL0

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Re: Why I change my own oil, well, one of many reasons...

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Which one did you get? I'd like to order one but don't know if a normal one works, right angle, etc... I'd probably prefer one with a nipple on it for a hose to attach and drain straight into a catch can for easy disposal.

I purchased the below listed items:

Qwik Valve # F106N Nipple Type Oil Drain Valve 14mm-1.5
Qwik Valve # LC-10 Small Lever Clip For F-Series Valve
Qwik Valve # F-Hose 3/8" ID x 3ft Clear Vinyl Tubing
(you can also go to the hardware store to get some tubing)
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Re: Why I change my own oil, well, one of many reasons...

Those with the valve, are you worried that it sticks down past the skid plate and a greater possibility of having it hit something and break off? Knowing my luck It happen the first dirt road I drive down.
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Those with the valve, are you worried that it sticks down past the skid plate and a greater possibility of having it hit something and break off? Knowing my luck It happen the first dirt road I drive down.
I have had them on two Ford Superduty's F-250/F-350, two Ford F-150's, two Jeep Grand Cherokee's, one Jeep Liberty, and one Ford Focus. That has been over a 15 year period with alot of mild off road use in the Jeep's and Ford trucks and I have never had one fail or get damaged. Very solid item in my opinion.
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Those with the valve, are you worried that it sticks down past the skid plate and a greater possibility of having it hit something and break off? Knowing my luck It happen the first dirt road I drive down.
No chance of that on the hemi, the drain plug is positioned way up there. You would have to tear off the entire belly pan to even get near it. You must have the V6 I think it is lower on it. The 106S has a very short nipple. Use that one with the plastic elbow if using a hose and the elbow will just pop off if it gets hit. No guarantees but the 106S may help minimize the hanging down. Double check fitment 106S fits hemi not sure about v6.
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