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Re: Winter's Coming - Let's talk snow tires

I've used Goodyear, Michelin and Cooper tires throughout the years and have driven through every type of snow condition that Mother Nature has ever dumped on Wisconsin.

The only snowflake branded tire I've ever used were the directional Fortera Triple Tread. It was a good enough tire but really didn't distinguish itself from all the other unbranded AT's I've used. For me, the additional expense of dedicated tires or a second set isn't offset by what I'd gain from them.

As I've said before, a good tire is important but it's only additional insurance, not a substitute for the ability to read and feel road conditions and adjusting your driving to suit.

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Re: Winter's Coming - Let's talk snow tires

Modern dedicated snow tires are all about traction in braking and turning. They are far superior to any All Season AT tire in both braking and turning, particularly on slick surfaces and ice where their capabilities really shine. Any modern AT tire will be able to get you going in snow, but will be much weaker at braking and turning on slick surfaces than a snow tire. In winter a good AT tire will just allow you to get stuck farther off the road. I have used Michelin X-Ice on my present ride up until this year but they are done and will be replaced this fall. Almost any modern dedicated snow tire will be far superior than an all Season AT tire in braking and cornering.
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Modern dedicated snow tires are all about traction in braking and turning. They are far superior to any All Season AT tire in both braking and turning, particularly on slick surfaces and ice where their capabilities really shine. Any modern AT tire will be able to get you going in snow, but will be much weaker at braking and turning on slick surfaces than a snow tire. In winter a good AT tire will just allow you to get stuck farther off the road. I have used Michelin X-Ice on my present ride up until this year but they are done and will be replaced this fall. Almost any modern dedicated snow tire will be far superior than an all Season AT tire in braking and cornering.
I agree with this.

I live in the Northeast and I have Hankook Dynapro ATM RF10 all terrain tires on mine and they work well in the snow, a bit better than most A/T tires. However, dedicated snow tires will always work the best.

I have A/T tires on mine because I rent and have no place to store extra tires.
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Re: Winter's Coming - Let's talk snow tires

Thanks for the feedback. I didn't consider siping or tread compounds for AT vs. dedicated snows. To be honest, the only reason I run dedicated snows on my Solstice is because I run dedicated summer tires the other half of the year. Those are obviously no good in snow or even temps below ~38F. On my '03 Saturn Vue, I've had good luck with Goodyear Fortera triple treads that do have the little mountain/snowflake symbol as a year-round tire. Might go that route with the Jeep and have my second set of wheels designated for good off-road tires when I have the need.
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Modern dedicated snow tires are all about traction in braking and turning. They are far superior to any All Season AT tire in both braking and turning, particularly on slick surfaces and ice where their capabilities really shine. Any modern AT tire will be able to get you going in snow, but will be much weaker at braking and turning on slick surfaces than a snow tire. In winter a good AT tire will just allow you to get stuck farther off the road. I have used Michelin X-Ice on my present ride up until this year but they are done and will be replaced this fall. Almost any modern dedicated snow tire will be far superior than an all Season AT tire in braking and cornering.
I've never had any issues on snow or ice. For me, the cost and hassle of running dedicated snow tires is not justified.
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Re: Winter's Coming - Let's talk snow tires

Nothing will work on ice except maybe studs...
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Nothing will work on ice except maybe studs...
Knowing the proper driving technique does.
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Knowing the proper driving technique does.
That is pretty much what I said in my earlier reply.
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That is pretty much what I said in my earlier reply.
LOL... and then you said, "Nothing will work on ice except maybe studs..."

That's what I replied to.

And yes, that's required even with studded tires.
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Re: Winter's Coming - Let's talk snow tires

I have been using Cooper Weathermasters WSC on OEM 18'' rims for two winters now. No complaints, great tire and if your jurisdiction allows you can stud them. Would like to try the Nokians next time.
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These are my choice and I will be getting them... "ALL SEASON" Nokian WRG3 SUV
Nokian prefers to call them "All weather" in order to indicate the higher level of grip verses "all season" which has been diluted to meaning almost nothing.
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I have been using Cooper Weathermasters on OEM 18'' rims for two winters now. No complaints, great tire and if your jurisdiction allows you can stud them. Would like to try the Nokians next time.
I'll probably get this one since it's the only one I can find in wide sizes. 265-65-17. It's got really good reviews.
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