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Old 07-28-2015, 07:59 AM
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This is why I'm laughing at this whole thing. Still more "manufacturing improvements" that amount to a bigger, more involved, more expensive PITA. I'm seeing zero advantage to this, especially for desert dwellers like myself. Here in Phoenix, like much of the desert Southwest, the June and July Summertime temperatures can climb to over 115 F daily. Under the hood, in a hot garage they can remain over 150+ for hours on end. This for over 4 months out of the year. It's about the equivalent of putting your battery in the oven in June, and taking it out at the end of September when it finally starts to cool off.

Because of this, I have never gotten more than 2 full Summers out of a battery here. And not only that, but unlike in temperate climates, you get no warning. The car will start fine, and then the next time it's as if someone cut the battery cable, nothing. The dome light won't even go on. I've been lucky through the years, and have only been stranded one time at the local supermarket, about a mile from my house. All the rest managed to happen in the garage.

Now why would anyone living out here in their right mind, want to invest in a $400.00+ battery? It's absolutely absurd. From what I'm gathering from reading my owners manual, the battery in my new 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee is located under the passenger seat. While this might help in keeping the battery cooler than placing it under the hood, I can't help but wonder what a PITA it is going to be to change it out? Is the damn seat going to have to be removed?

I just don't understand why manufacturers continually do this type of thing? A more expensive battery located in a far more difficult location to change out. How does this "improve" anything? So now what? I wait until it takes a dump God knows when, then I have to have it towed into a dealer, (again God knows which one or where), if it takes a dump out of town. And then have to pay some ridiculous amount to have another one installed. A major, expensive, time consuming project that used to be a 15 minute, $65.00 job tops. And for what?
Have you priced a "regular" battery lately? You'll pay $110, minimum. $160 or more if you want the warranty that you get with an AGM battery. An AGM is $200.

Replacement is easy in the GC. Just move the passenger seat all the way forward and tilted all the way up. Access it from the rear seat.

All cars in the last ten years or so will shut down (and lock you out) when the battery is low. You have to learn how to unlock the door with the emergency key and then open the hood to jump it from the remote posts.

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Re: WK2 - New battery type and location

Anyone know the battery rating for the WK2 Petrol. CCA and reserve capacity or A/hr rating.
I know its not a deep cycle but wondering what the rating is so that I do not draw too much power out when parked overnight running gear off the stock battery.
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Re: WK2 - New battery type and location

Just raise the hood (to get rid of the heat sink!) and keep it on a battery tender......

We live in central TX and it gets pretty warm in our garage, especially when you bring a hot car into it.

First thing I always do is raise the hood on the vehicle then plug the Battery Tender into the battery pigtail (supplied by BT). I use a BT on all the vehicles (including the motorcycle) and never a problem in 12 years. The oldest battery was 5 years old and still tested out strong.

And, as another poster stated, you just bring the seat forward and tilt it up. Note that the battery is quite heavy and having two people makes it easier to remove....
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Re: WK2 - New battery type and location

Factory battery for the diesel is an H8 with 85Ah and 800 CCA.

Ooops! Sorry, didn't get your motor at first......

Factory Battery for the V6 in the APAC market is an H7 75Ah and 800 CCA. Part # BP0H7800AA
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Re: WK2 - New battery type and location

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Anyone know the battery rating for the WK2 Petrol. CCA and reserve capacity or A/hr rating.
I know its not a deep cycle but wondering what the rating is so that I do not draw too much power out when parked overnight running gear off the stock battery.
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The V6 engine has a 700CCA battery. More details can be found by looking at specifications for battery model 9AGM49
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Re: WK2 - New battery type and location

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Have you priced a "regular" battery lately? You'll pay $110, minimum. $160 or more if you want the warranty that you get with an AGM battery. An AGM is $200.

Replacement is easy in the GC. Just move the passenger seat all the way forward and tilted all the way up. Access it from the rear seat.

All cars in the last ten years or so will shut down (and lock you out) when the battery is low. You have to learn how to unlock the door with the emergency key and then open the hood to jump it from the remote posts.
The last battery I bought cost me $68.00. I never make it past the "free" replacement, which out here you can only use twice. They'd go broke otherwise. After 2 "free" replacements it goes to straight pro rate. Which isn't too bad when you only get 2 years out of a battery. If the replacement is a easy do-it-yourself project, it won't be too bad. How bad is it to get everything on the car "reprogrammed" after a battery replacement? Is the "wait on hold" very long at NASA?
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The last battery I bought cost me $68.00. I never make it past the "free" replacement, which out here you can only use twice. They'd go broke otherwise. After 2 "free" replacements it goes to straight pro rate. Which isn't too bad when you only get 2 years out of a battery. If the replacement is a easy do-it-yourself project, it won't be too bad. How bad is it to get everything on the car "reprogrammed" after a battery replacement? Is the "wait on hold" very long at NASA?
Not sure where the NASA comment comes from.

I'm just going buy the prices today at O'Reilly's, in your area. Cost of a three year "regular" battery for my classic car is $160, and that's 775 CCA. A one-year with 550 CCA is $96. As has been stated by another, the GC battery is 700 CCA.

The only reprogramming that should have to be done, if the vehicle reverts back to factory default, should be the preferences that you may have selected for seat adjustments, door locks, radio stations, any "learning" of the transmission, that sort of thing.
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Not sure where the NASA comment comes from.
Just joking about the complexity.
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Just joking about the complexity.
Such are cars in the 21st century.

Everything has a sensor on it that tells some computer what is going on so it can change an input somewhere else. Many are for convenience, many are regulated by FedCo. Even a simple carbon canister, used to look like a coffee can back in the 70's, is monitored by the computer. And just like your PC, requires a stable voltage source.
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Re: WK2 - New battery type and location

When we bought the car, I thought the battery was in this box.

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I gotta say, I much prefer fuses in that box than under the dash or even on the side of the dash. Very convenient. Now for the battery inside, I like that it's always clean and dry at least. Hopefully it lasts 8 yrs like my last VW diesel battery. Whenever it dies I'll replace with OEM.
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I gotta say, I much prefer fuses in that box than under the dash or even on the side of the dash. Very convenient. Now for the battery inside, I like that it's always clean and dry at least. Hopefully it lasts 8 yrs like my last VW diesel battery. Whenever it dies I'll replace with OEM.
Something to be said about OEM batteries. They seem to last about double the shop batteries.
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