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Edit: blckwk2's response made me start to recount all the things this has going for it. Will I have it forever? Likely not, but I might as well get the most of it...and probably trade it in for a new one in 5-8 years.

So Im writing this after having been a Jeep owner since 2006. My first was a WK Limited ('07) and quite frankly Im kind of sad I traded it in for my WK2 Overland. For the record Ive got a '14 Hemi which is pretty great but at the end of the day its dragged down by such simple fixes. I was chatting with a high school bud of mine who also started with a WK ('08) has a '13 overland and we agreed the drivers seat is shit, the fact that neither of us have adjustable pedals is shit and the sound system is crap (minus the surround additions). I also miss the glass opening on the hitch. Does anyone else think its weird these are issues at all? Im going to sound like a brat if I keep going but frankly Im just really disappointed, especially so because newer generations have always surpassed the last ones...let alone trims. I worked my ass off to afford a newer jeep because I could tell my old one was going and i'm starting to consider getting rid of mine despite there not being very many adequate alternatives on the market. I'd likely be better off restoring a Wagoneer...Respond if you'd like. Sorry for the vent.

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Well, I 'm a Jeep newbie with a '15 Overland. No past Jeep experience to compare to, but I like it a lot.
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Old 02-20-2015, 07:49 AM
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Is there anything else you would like to talk about....

This is the right place (and maybe the wrong place) to vent but the responses will dictate that. Let me start by asking why you went with the 14' Overland when all your past threads were looking to buy a 13'? Multiple instances you indicated that you didn't want a 14'.

I do not have past experience owning a JGC. However, I have past experience owning JEEP products (1998 Cherokee, 2004 Liberty) and enjoyed them very much. My 2014 Altitude JGC beats out my previous experiences by far. Very pleased with the purchase.

I do believe your experience, coming from a WK to WK2. However, I think the things you vented about should have been greatly considered before purchasing the vehicle. A simple test drive of the vehicle would let you feel the seat comfort, play the audio system, and hopefully you noticed no flipper glass. Just Sayin'. I believe you knew all of these things before you pulled the trigger and most likely it was the "new" excitement that brought you to spend you hard earned cash for the WK2. Or a crafty salesman.

The technology advancements have definitely been made regarding the differences of the WK and WK2. Unfortunately there were some things they decided would have to go (Flipper glass).
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Old 02-20-2015, 08:10 AM
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I used to got 07 JGC Hemi and got traded in w 14' JGC limited and... I LOVE IT! I didn't say any last words to my ol 07 Hemi.

But, every opinions are different. So, I respect.
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Thanks for hearing me out. I think it was more that Im kicking myself now because I didnt realize the simple features I took for granted (basic good sound system and adjustable pedals etc...hell even the remote start was a new thing when I got the 07!). I knew about the flipper glass and thought...well how annoying would It be to not have it! I just didnt realize id be then having to play "hope nothing falls out" when I pack the car to the brim for a tailgate in the fall and then slowly open it once I get to the lot.

I was really looking for a 12/13 summit grey on saddle. Found a few but by the time I could get to them the were either near sold or too much. Ended up stumbling into the 14 (it was a demo) when I went to check out a 12. The interior is what really sealed it for me after the test drive (hemi/ ride comfort was great as well) Ended up getting a pretty fair deal on it. Basically at that point I had exhausted my 12/13 options at the time and finally came around to the 14. In theory I'll either make this all work or trade up/over/down at some point. I could be worse off, I mean we're all lucky to have these things. I guess I was just let down a little after the smoke cleared and the band packed up and left!


Pretty much see a silver lining in all this, hopefully the next refresh will change it up some more.
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I have to agree to an extent. As much as I love our 2015, The flipper glass and adjustable pedals are both a huge negative. I guess that's probably been beat to death but it still is a very large miss IMO...

We once lost a gallon of milk.... Got home from shopping, hit the remote hatch open button from the front seat.... Splashdown. It had shifted to the back and fell right onto the concrete when the door started to open.

I just ordered the RAX jailbreak software and since it includes a button for a "Cargo Cam" I plan to mount a camera in the cargo / hatch area. This will allow me to view the contents BEFORE I hit that hatch open button.

Not only does it help that issue but I am a bit obsessive and if the button says "Cargo Cam" then pressing it should show the cargo area

The other positives far outweigh those negatives though. So overall I am happy and no regrets.
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Every vehicle each of us buys will have things that delight us and things that irk us...'nature of the beast. And some of the latter will always be around features that change or disappear. Some features, like the "flipper glass" are important and frequently useful to some and never used by others. For that one (and I'm not trying to start a debate on it as it's been discussed a gazillion times over the past two years already) I "like" the feature, but have only used it no more times than I have fingers on my two hands. If that. In fact, I didn't even know I had that feature until months after my purchase I was reading about it here at JG and went in search of the hidden button to open it.

Most of us are "naturally resistant to change" so getting used to something new can take time. And yes, it will be very interesting to see what the MY18 brings to the table as an all-new platform...which is about the time I'll be ready to move on my next JGC.
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Every vehicle each of us buys will have things that delight us and things that irk us...'nature of the beast.
Agree 100%. I also keep reminding myself that if they put EVERY feature on there that I have EVER liked or thought I would like, it would be a lot more expensive. Always going to be a give & take and again, the positives far outweigh the few "irks"
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We once lost a gallon of milk.... Got home from shopping, hit the remote hatch open button from the front seat.... Splashdown. It had shifted to the back and fell right onto the concrete when the door started to open.
We're looking at GC's as a tow vehicle. Our current Acura has a full flip up rear hatch and we've never lost anything out the back. We also have a rubber cargo mat with a tall rear lip. I wonder if something like that would help the GC?
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We also have a rubber cargo mat with a tall rear lip. I wonder if something like that would help the GC?
Yes that would work just fine. For me I have never been a big fan of the rubber mats though, just for aesthetic reasons... (Yes, I realize its an SUV and not a luxury car, don't judge me... )

And I will say, lesson learned, since then I have done a better job of securing the groceries and have had no issues... BUT I am what might be called a "spirited" driver so things still often shift more than intended.

Bottom line, plenty of ways to work around no flipper glass, for me its the camera, better packing and in some cases, bungee cords... A rubber mat with a lip is a great solution as well.
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Cars are like guns and golf clubs. Everyone has their own preference. I bought my first JGC last year--a 2015 Overland. The seat was a little uncomfortable at first, but I was able to use the power seat controls and the steering wheel controls to get into a comfortable driving position. The seat is breaking in nicely. I just drove to Florida and spent 14 hours in it over two days--10 hours the first day. It is the best highway cruiser I ever owned. My wife loves it, and that's positive, because she hates my BMW, and will only drive it if she has no other options. So far we have had no issues with any defects. I wish the accelerator pedal was farther forward, but I used the power adjustment for the steering wheel to get me back far enough from the pedal in a comfortable driving position. The car warms up quickly in the cold. It's pretty quiet on the highway at speed. The V6 accelerates nicely. Lane changes are easy and stable. It's ponderous on turns and the tires can break loose on ice more than I would like. The fit and finish were great at delivery. I would recommend the JGC to anyone.
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Every vehicle each of us buys will have things that delight us and things that irk us...'nature of the beast. And some of the latter will always be around features that change or disappear. Some features, like the "flipper glass" are important and frequently useful to some and never used by others. For that one (and I'm not trying to start a debate on it as it's been discussed a gazillion times over the past two years already) I "like" the feature, but have only used it no more times than I have fingers on my two hands. If that. In fact, I didn't even know I had that feature until months after my purchase I was reading about it here at JG and went in search of the hidden button to open it.

Most of us are "naturally resistant to change" so getting used to something new can take time. And yes, it will be very interesting to see what the MY18 brings to the table as an all-new platform...which is about the time I'll be ready to move on my next JGC.



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