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Old 11-08-2010, 02:22 PM
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Old 11-08-2010, 03:03 PM
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Re: WK2 top speed

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No but the higher weight, aerodynamics, higher center of gravity, poor brakes that would overheat even with someone is doing a somewhat hard braking trying to slow a SUV from 130-140 MPH has a lot to do with it. There are sedans that I wouldn't take up to those speed due to the car just not being stable. Brakes have everything to do with speed. Everything that moves have to have away to stop or even slowdown.
No traffic means you will not necessarily have to "jam" the brakes or use the brakes at all. I'm not talking about wizzing down crowded streets at 130mph. I'm talking wide open smooth roads with no traffic and no danger to anyone but yourself.

Also I feel like some of you think I'm talking about going 200+mph. 130mph is not that fast. In a day and age where having an 11second street car means you can hardly talk crap, 130mph is actually quite slow. I believe the 5.7 jeeps could take sustained speeds over 110. Not 150, but 130 -- sure. Then again, I doubt many owners would be driving it that fast.

I told the OP to not get a damn jeep and to get either a 5.0 or SS but he didn't listen to me, so now he's stuck with a 110mph boat.
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Old 11-08-2010, 03:42 PM
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Re: WK2 top speed

take the limiter off! I did in my WJ and idk how far I got it up to bc the speedo only goes up to 120MPH but its suppose to be able to do 128MPH. Im thinking the WKII can do much better.
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Old 11-08-2010, 04:30 PM
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Re: WK2 top speed

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No traffic means you will not necessarily have to "jam" the brakes or use the brakes at all. I'm not talking about wizzing down crowded streets at 130mph. I'm talking wide open smooth roads with no traffic and no danger to anyone but yourself.

Also I feel like some of you think I'm talking about going 200+mph. 130mph is not that fast. In a day and age where having an 11second street car means you can hardly talk crap, 130mph is actually quite slow. I believe the 5.7 jeeps could take sustained speeds over 110. Not 150, but 130 -- sure. Then again, I doubt many owners would be driving it that fast.

I told the OP to not get a damn jeep and to get either a 5.0 or SS but he didn't listen to me, so now he's stuck with a 110mph boat.
On public streets, you have ZERO guarantees that the only person you endanger is yourself. You may not see anybody, but that doesn't mean somebody won't come out of a cross street, you won't have some obstacle cross your path (a deer at 130 will destroy your vehicle and probably the occupants). You may consider it "not that fast," and in the context of a race track with a suitably high performance vehicle, it isn't.

When the maximum legal speed is around 70mph (give or take a few, depending on your area) and many people travel no more than 90mph, you're still talking a 40mph rate of closure, and you're correspondingly closer to your vehicle's limits. Even on an unlimited stretch of the German autobahn you are extremely likely to end up plowing somebody who pulls out right in front of you (many people seem to be under the impression that any speed is safe in the right vehicle out there... such is not the case due to other drivers).

You may not feel you are endangering others, but it appears you do not see the situation as clearly as others might.
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Re: WK2 top speed

I had my 2006 JGC SRT8 up to 150+ upstate on a straight road in the middle of nowhere but have not yet opened the Overland up as im only at 100 miles in engine break in.

But that sucks if it is limited at 110 mph!
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location has nothing to do with it... just the vehicle itself. I used to own a 2008 Subaru Impreza WRX STI and it saw 100mph practically daily.. as did my turbocharged 2004 Mustang GT.. but those were performance oriented vehicles with sport-tuned suspension, a low center of gravity, very strong braking systems and quite obviously a lot less weight. my WK and my WJ have never once exceeded 80 mph because I know that's far from what those vehicles are made to do.

sure the new vehicles have more safety features to protect the driver, but that doesn't mean a damn thing to an unsuspecting motorist that pulls into your lane not realizing how fast you're going. the brakes won't be nearly as effective on a vehicle of such weight, and if you were to swerve, well that would probably be the end of your truck and maybe even you.
Friend, location has everything to do with it
A German autobahn, or Australia's Northern Territory...... unrestricted roads, where travelling at 130+ isn't an issue, and it being done by thousands, right now, in absolute safety.
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RE: Speed Rated Tires
The speed rating is the sustained speed rating, not a limit on a short duration (i.e. 1min) high speed run. That said, I'd not be pushing "slow" tires at high speeds very often as their construction is not meant for that.

Tires NOT rated for truly high speeds will, given their construction, heat up faster and disintegrate if used for a sustained period at higher than rated speeds. Running a tire under-inflated at 45mph can have the same disintegrating effect.

It is often the case that high speed track racing tires will absolutely suck on the street until they are heated up to their designed operating temperature. That's why you see Formula 1 and NASCAR guys, for example, driving a few warm up laps with lots of swerving while doing so...to heat the tires.
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No traffic means you will not necessarily have to "jam" the brakes or use the brakes at all. I'm not talking about wizzing down crowded streets at 130mph. I'm talking wide open smooth roads with no traffic and no danger to anyone but yourself.

Also I feel like some of you think I'm talking about going 200+mph. 130mph is not that fast. In a day and age where having an 11second street car means you can hardly talk crap, 130mph is actually quite slow. I believe the 5.7 jeeps could take sustained speeds over 110. Not 150, but 130 -- sure. Then again, I doubt many owners would be driving it that fast.

I told the OP to not get a damn jeep and to get either a 5.0 or SS but he didn't listen to me, so now he's stuck with a 110mph boat.
you nor anyone on this site owns a stretch of road which means there are some aspects of a freeway you can not control. What happens if a car enters the freeway or a car on the otherside of the freeway goes off the road and into your lane of travel or what if a deer crosses the roadway and you need to slowdown and or stop but you can't do it in time because your brakes has failed on you?
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On public streets, you have ZERO guarantees that the only person you endanger is yourself. You may not see anybody, but that doesn't mean somebody won't come out of a cross street, you won't have some obstacle cross your path (a deer at 130 will destroy your vehicle and probably the occupants). You may consider it "not that fast," and in the context of a race track with a suitably high performance vehicle, it isn't.

When the maximum legal speed is around 70mph (give or take a few, depending on your area) and many people travel no more than 90mph, you're still talking a 40mph rate of closure, and you're correspondingly closer to your vehicle's limits. Even on an unlimited stretch of the German autobahn you are extremely likely to end up plowing somebody who pulls out right in front of you (many people seem to be under the impression that any speed is safe in the right vehicle out there... such is not the case due to other drivers).

You may not feel you are endangering others, but it appears you do not see the situation as clearly as others might.
Techno put it in much more civilized way than I ever could. All I can say is that "But I only go this fast when there is nobody else on the road" argument is idiotic at best. I don't mind other people receiving Darwin Award but I have other plans and cannot attend the ceremony.
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Re: WK2 top speed

The max I have been on an SUV is about 140mph on an X5 in germany (fastest in any car I have driven is 170mph) The X5 felt too heavy and It was to stressful to drive at this kind of speed.

I also tried the Cayenne and it felt the same way. I do not think SUVs are safe going at the above mentioned speeds. The momentum inertia an all those built at 130MPH with a 5000lb car are too great to be controllable by most driver.

And if the speed limit is 65 anyway...
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lol..... this topic always brings a smile to my face

I'm certain there's been a few threads just like this before for the WK, not WK2 lol
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I have an 05 Laredo that I threw Brembos on as well as the full SRT suspension plus some upgrades to the sway links and springs dropping it lower than SRT stock height. I travel on 95 weekly usually after 10pm and there are never more then 2-3 cars near me at any time and I can get her up to 116 I think when the limiter comes in. She feels just as good at 115 as she does at 75, the Nittos help a bit and all the upgrades make it. I can get her down from 115 to 60 in a flash as well if need be.

I think it all comes back to knowing your car, knowing your surroundings and being attentive and somewhat cautious. High speeds arent that dangerous if you take all the aforementioned into account, speed never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary, thats what will get ya
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