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Old 08-11-2010, 09:12 PM
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Re: WK2 Towing questions w/o Tow Grp IV

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Was this Overland one of the early production models w/o the QL? If so that would explain why it has the Class IV.

I really hope this isn't the case with QL. I placed an order 3 weeks ago and have a ship date of 21 Aug. I really wanted the CL IV tow group.
Jonnyg do you have a build sheet? Does it show any trailer tow group on it? My build sheet doesn't show any trailer package yet the dealer showed me under the accessories included was the trailer tow group... He said the price was included in the hemi, the reason it comes up 1995.

I am not sure about the Overland I saw, I believe it didnt have OL although can't confirm definitely as I didnt go inside of it and look at the selec-train knob and options to the right to see if it had OL.
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Old 08-11-2010, 09:13 PM
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Re: WK2 Towing questions w/o Tow Grp IV

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Was this Overland one of the early production models w/o the QL? If so that would explain why it has the Class IV.

I really hope this isn't the case with QL. I placed an order 3 weeks ago and have a ship date of 21 Aug. I really wanted the CL IV tow group.
Also Jonnyg, you do know both packages include the IV hitch, the difference is the alternator and HD cooling, although it should have an electric cooling fan regardless of the package.
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Old 08-11-2010, 09:16 PM
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Re: WK2 Towing questions w/o Tow Grp IV

Question- What does the II stand for after the OL? OL II Pkg, isnt it just Quadra Lift... It shouldn't show on your build sheet, but I assume as an included accessory.
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Re: WK2 Towing questions w/o Tow Grp IV

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I attached my build sheet and it does show the AHX Trailer Tow Group IV. I attached a pdf file for you to look at.
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Old 08-11-2010, 09:24 PM
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My build sheet says the same thing. It doesn't show the tow package but has the 25P package as $1995 because it includes a "tow package". I am not sure what the tow package includes. Maybe Milous can jump in and let us know what the on groud truth is.
Yea hes been good he probably could help.. But pulling this from jeep.com (if it is right)

Towing Capability
The Trailer Tow Group includes a Class IV receiver hitch, trailer tow wiring harness and Trailer Sway Control[1] (TSC).All Grand Cherokee models properly equipped with the available 5.7-liter V8 engine and Trailer Tow Group come with a variable-speed 850 watt brushless electric cooling fan.

I pulled this from the Jeep Manual, confirming it is definitely a IV receiver, just not sure about the extra cooling features...

Engine/ Model Model
3.6L 4x2
3.6L 4x4
5.7L 4x2
5.7L 4x4
GCWR (Gross Com- bined Wt. Rating)
8,900 lbs (4 037 kg)
8,900 lbs (4 037 kg)
13,100 lbs (5 942 kg)
13,100 lbs (5 942 kg)
Frontal Area
40 sq ft (3.72 sq m)
40 sq ft (3.72 sq m)
60 sq ft (5.57 sq m)
60 sq ft (5.57 sq m)
Max. GTW (Gross Trailer Wt.)
5,000 lbs (2 268 kg)
5,000 lbs (2 268 kg)
7,400 lbs (3 357 kg)
7,200 lbs (3 266 kg)
Max. Trailer Tongue Wt. (See Note)
500 lbs (227 kg)
500 lbs (227 kg)
740 lbs (336 kg)
720 lbs (327 kg)


I think they reworked the 2011 model for towing and we all may be confused as to what they offer. For 2010 and earlier the trailer two group only had a II class hitch, now all Models seem to be equipped with the IV. Not sure about upgraded alternator, etc.. Well all soon find out
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Re: WK2 Towing questions w/o Tow Grp IV

When I was going through the build with the dealer he only saw the std 180 amp alternator. No 220 amp which perked my curiosity leading to this thread. And this was as of yesterday, so is it possible that Jeep has changed things again?
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Old 08-12-2010, 09:33 AM
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When I was going through the build with the dealer he only saw the std 180 amp alternator. No 220 amp which perked my curiosity leading to this thread. And this was as of yesterday, so is it possible that Jeep has changed things again?
I hope they have not. It wont effect me since mine is a limited (still "shipped to storage" by the way which is ANNOYING) but I know quite a few that are planning on Overland with QL but definitely will not order without the Class IV towing group. I wonder if they discovered that the Class IV towing and the air suspension are somehow not compatible? If so I bet there are going to be a lot more limiteds sold now.
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Old 08-12-2010, 02:38 PM
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Was putting together an order for an Overland, 4X4, w/ the Hemi (which includes the QL II) and just learned today, according to the Jeep customer Service, that one can not get the Trailer Tow Group IV with the Quadra Lift II Pkg.
I just checked a recent build sheet for a 5.7L Overland and it had QL with the Trailer Tow Group IV (AHX), 220 amp alt, HD cooling.

What's strange is that I also see some recently built Overland's w/o the QL and some with it. Very confusing, not sure what's going on.
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Re: WK2 Towing questions w/o Tow Grp IV

Well I guess that is good news on the Tow Grp IV... I guess we will just have to wait and see what shows up for the QL.
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Re: WK2 Towing questions w/o Tow Grp IV

If it's confusing for you, how do you think we mere mortals are feeling???
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Old 08-12-2010, 04:29 PM
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Re: WK2 Towing questions w/o Tow Grp IV

When a car is equipped with a 5.7 isn't the only option supposed to be available the trailer tow group IV. This is confusing lol
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Re: WK2 Towing questions w/o Tow Grp IV

Called jeep and confirmed my overland, ordered on July 31st has the AHX trailer group IV As expected but they do not see quadra lift listed on the build but they told me it's doesn't mean it's not there as I ordered July 31 anything after June 22 is supposed to be standard.... I'm stumped. Does quadra lift show on anyones build sheet?
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