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Bump.

So you did:
Last Dollar Road near Telluride: not on traildamage.com
Yankee Boy Basin (Ouray): 2/3 on traildamage.com
Mineral Creek: 4/4 on traildamage.com
Engineer Pass (Ouray): 2/3 on traildamage.com
Imogene Pass/Upper Camp Bird Trail: 4/5 on Traildamage.com
Ophir Pass: 2/3 on traildamage.com


Nothing your Jeep couldn't handle? Could you rank each based on what was your favorite? Favorite could be best scenery, how technical, etc.

I want to make a trip out there this summer, and would like recommendations on which trails to hit or avoid in my WK2.

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Sorry, have not been on here in a while, but I agree with Denis4x4's response. I have seen WK2s do Blackbear on another board, but have not done it myself. That initial approach down The Steps looks pretty sketchy to me, but it doesn't look like anything the WK2 couldn't do. But, Pookeepsie Gulch has an obstacle that I just don't know if the WK2 has the approach and departure angles to do. Could be wrong, have not been there in my WK2. But, plenty of videos on YouTube.

Imogene is rated in the books as a high end moderate, higher than Engineer. I found that while Imogene seemed steeper, I don't know that it is any harder to me than Engineer - at least from Silverton. Engineer seemed to have a milder, but rockier path, and while the view from Oh! Point near the pass is great, I really like taking Imogene from Ouray to Telluride, then back to Ouray via Last Dollar Road. Ophir is fun, more challenging than Last Dollar, which is mostly a 2WD road. But, Last Dollar has some great Aspen groves which are spectacular. It's a prettier drive.

And it has a great overlook spot! See attached from a couple weeks ago.
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Re: WK2 Trip - San Juan Mountains

Sorry to keep bumping this thread, but for those that have been to Ouray / Telluride, which trails would you recommend, in order? My main focus is getting off road, but nothing too technical, and seeing the best possible views.
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Sorry to keep bumping this thread, but for those that have been to Ouray / Telluride, which trails would you recommend, in order? My main focus is getting off road, but nothing too technical, and seeing the best possible views.
My favorites in terms of fun, scenic, minimal chance of damage except maybe a skid plate:

1. Imogene Pass - From Ouray to Telluride. Prettier on the Ouray side, steeper. I also like to hit Imogene via the lower Camp Bird road.

2. Yankee Boy Basin - all the way up past Twin Falls.

3. Engineer Pass - Go From Silverton if you want to avoid the shorter difficult approach from Mineral Creek.

4. Clear Lake - Short ride 10 miles are so from 550. Easy, little rocky near the top - see attached picture. Just one or two little rock outcrops. Beautiful wildflowers right now, quiet, unbelievably quiet up there.

5. Last Dollar Road - Telluride side, probably a good choice to return to Ouray after Imogene if you take it from Ouray to Telluride.

6. Ophir Pass - A good choice to return to Ouray after Imogene if you take it from Ouray to Telluride.

7. Corkscrew Pass from Silverton back to 550. Nice views of the Red Mountains.

You kind of have to plan this out but alot of people like to do Engineer Pass from Silverton or Mineral Creek all the way to Lake City - Lunch in Lake City, return to 550 via Cinnamon Pass. That's an all day thing.

I've done Yankee Boy, Imogene, Ophir (or Last Dollar) in half a day. Done Clear Creek and Engineer and back either by Corkscrew or Mineral Creek for a day.

Those would be the places I would take someone for the first time. Just my opinion.
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Re: WK2 Trip - San Juan Mountains

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Sorry, have not been on here in a while, but I agree with Denis4x4's response. I have seen WK2s do Blackbear on another board, but have not done it myself. That initial approach down The Steps looks pretty sketchy to me, but it doesn't look like anything the WK2 couldn't do. But, Pookeepsie Gulch has an obstacle that I just don't know if the WK2 has the approach and departure angles to do. Could be wrong, have not been there in my WK2. But, plenty of videos on YouTube.

Imogene is rated in the books as a high end moderate, higher than Engineer. I found that while Imogene seemed steeper, I don't know that it is any harder to me than Engineer - at least from Silverton. Engineer seemed to have a milder, but rockier path, and while the view from Oh! Point near the pass is great, I really like taking Imogene from Ouray to Telluride, then back to Ouray via Last Dollar Road. Ophir is fun, more challenging than Last Dollar, which is mostly a 2WD road. But, Last Dollar has some great Aspen groves which are spectacular. It's a prettier drive.

And it has a great overlook spot! See attached from a couple weeks ago.
Could you or anyone recommend any back road/off road trails for someone in a rental SUV within about 25 miles of Durango? I have driving the Imogene Pass from Ouray to Telluride many times in a Wrangler, and also up to Engineer Pass, but never taken a rental "Mid Size SUV" up any of those roads. We will be in Durango for a few days the first week of October and I would love to find some "safe" but scenic routes that we could tackle without any risk to the rental vehicle. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks
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Could you or anyone recommend any back road/off road trails for someone in a rental SUV within about 25 miles of Durango? I have driving the Imogene Pass from Ouray to Telluride many times in a Wrangler, and also up to Engineer Pass, but never taken a rental "Mid Size SUV" up any of those roads. We will be in Durango for a few days the first week of October and I would love to find some "safe" but scenic routes that we could tackle without any risk to the rental vehicle. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks
Depends on what your rental company considers a mid size SUV. I reserved just that description of a vehicle from Hertz and got a something like a PT Cruiser! I was like, WTF? Even came complete with a flat tire. But, I've seen cars make it to the Twin Lakes area of Yankee Boy basin, not any farther. Saw a suburban at Clear Lake which is just north of Silverton.
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Depends on what your rental company considers a mid size SUV. I reserved just that description of a vehicle from Hertz and got a something like a PT Cruiser! I was like, WTF? Even came complete with a flat tire. But, I've seen cars make it to the Twin Lakes area of Yankee Boy basin, not any farther. Saw a suburban at Clear Lake which is just north of Silverton.
If they give me a PT Loser, I'm going to say no thanks, and we will walk!

Seriously though, the description says "Ford Escape, or something similar".
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Re: WK2 Trip - San Juan Mountains

I just checked out some nice videos on the road up to Clear Lake. That looks very doable to me in almost any kind of an SUV. Thanks for the info.
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It's been a few years since that incident with Hertz but it seems like those agencies seem to consider crossovers to be like SUVs. I'd be a little leery of any vehicle that doesn't have 4Lo gearing. Like I said, I saw some cross over types make it to the falls on Yankee Boy, but they were mentioning the lack of power. I can imagine descents not much good for their brakes.

Our daughter took her Sport Trac all the way to the same spot in 2WD, but had been spinning her wheels in a couple spots. She had a sticky actuator that didn't engage her 4WD when shifting to 4Hi. It became unstuck when shifting to 4Lo.

You could do Yankee Boy near Ouray safely. You could get to Animas Forks from Silverton safely. Pretty safe with not any extremely steep spots. Last Dollar and Alta Lakes are doable in an Escape AWD type of vehicle, but all those are outside your 25 mile range from Durango. The closest places that I'm familiar with are near Silverton, which is twice your range.
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I just checked out some nice videos on the road up to Clear Creek. That looks very doable to me in almost any kind of an SUV. Thanks for the info.
There are some steepish portions of that road the last mile, but mostly 2WD. There is a nice little rock outcrop covering half the road 1/8 of mile or so from the top. See my post #51 on this thread, I attached a picture of it.
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Oops, just noticed you said Clear Creek not Clear Lake....not familiar with that trail.
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Oops, just noticed you said Clear Creek not Clear Lake....not familiar with that trail.
My oops, not yours. I meant Clear Lake. I changed it. And the mention of staying within 25 miles of Durango was just a random distance. I can make it to Silverton in about an hour, and that is certainly doable if that's where the roads are. I think Clear Lake and the Ophir Pass are two that I will try, as long as the vehicle I get seems capable enough.
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Re: WK2 Trip - San Juan Mountains

La Plata Canyon and Missionary road are within your radius. You will need to turn around when you get to the scree in La Plata as it eats tires big time. There are a number of good routes to explore in the area. Google San Juan National Forest for info.
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