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Just bought 15 summit. Love it. First jeep, so prior experience. 7 themes to choose. However, biggest disappointment is there are not any music presets...only bass, mid, and treble setting. No rock, pop, talk, jazz, etc...and this is with HK system.
Hate those presets...never used them in my other radios..No rock, pop, talk, jazz, etc...

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Meant 2025 as in your earlier post....now corrected.

In 11 years we'll be on batteries with electric motors - gas cars will become ECONOMICALLY obsolete. When you can go for just a few pennies a mile and electric cars cost the same as gas cars, gas cars will get converted or scrapped. Just a couple leaps in battery technology to bring down the cost and with rapid recharge or 1 minute swappable battery packs...say goodbye to the inefficient internal combustion engine for cars. There are many other uses for fossil fuels than running cars...so there will be a continuous need for it. Once the electric car cost crosses a certain level it'll be like vacuum tubes versus integrated circuits. it is the future.
I think the future car fuel is going to be hydrogen... There putting in pumps in Cali already. Faster fill up than batteries...
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Hate those presets...never used them in my other radios..No rock, pop, talk, jazz, etc...
I realized, it is XM radio, it actually sounds terrible. When I go to a HD Radio station, or bluetooth, sounds 100 times better than XM radio.
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Old 11-20-2014, 09:12 AM
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Yeah, Popular Science magazine said the same thing back in the 70s. A gasoline-powered car would be unheard of by the next century. Well, we're about 15 years into that next century and gasoline-powered vehicles outsell electric vehicles by what, about 10,000:1?

Gasoline vehicles will continue to be sold in large numbers for the foreseeable future. The problem really boils down to battery technology and cost. We still need to see huge breakthroughs in battery technology to get a decent driving range at a decent cost before the masses will be willing to give up their gas cars for an electric. That just ain't gonna happen in the next 11 years for sure....
Gas is on the way out, sorry.

There is a huge difference b/n the 70's and today. A few points:
- the tesla is actually a car that looks hot (compared to junk like prius)
- the tesla is very powerful (destroys many cars in 0-60)
- the volt lets you drive on battery for a while before switching over to gas when needed
- tesla has installed power charging stations all over the place and continues to do this
- tesla also has the ability to drop your battery and install a replacement in less time then it takes to fill my empty jeep with gas.

Battery capacity is still not in the same range as my jeep, but they are working on it and getting better, and the points above make the battery capacity less of an issue.

Let's face it, the tesla has advantages over gas too; for a start, a lot less engine maintenance (there is none).

The volt is still ugly, and it costs too much for me; but if they made a tesla that competes with a camry (same cost, maybe a couple thousand increase; but same size, class etc), it would be a game changer for many more people.
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Tesla's are nothing but status symbol at the moment. We can sit here and argue all day, but the way our society is centered on transportation in the US a Tesla is not a realistic option for anyone in the middle class.

Time will tell how serious Elon is when the model E is released. IMO that's when the game can be changed. Right now the model S is just a toy for the well-to-do.
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