I drove past a filling Station a few days ago and saw they were selling 100% Gas (no Ethanol). I would like to try a few tank fulls to see if their would be any difference in MPG or performance in my 2013 GC Ltd. 3.6. Does any body have any info or experience with running 100% gas, (good,bad,or whatever). You input would sure be appreciated. Thanks P.B.
Pure GAS very good for your engine. Ethonal very bad. I wish they sold pure gas at the pumps out west. Was it 87 octane? Ethonal makes less power than gas so you should see a slight increase in mpg with pure gas.
If I had a choice I would never use ethanol, sadly I have no choice. And with Obama's goon squad at EPA forcing 15% down our throats, things will only get worse. I do believe our warranties exclude damage caused by high ethanol, so you might have to send repair bills to the Whitehouse. Be sure to tell them you are not working, because you don't feel like it. They will pay the bill and give you a free tank of ethanol.
Excuse me, the NSA is at the door. Damn they are fast.
I'm not gonna jump on the political train that bill_de is on , but I will say that when I drove my '07 WK out to Detroit in 2011 for the JNAP tour I started putting 100% gasoline in somewhere in Canada.
Made a big difference. I'd recommend it if you can get it. I can't get it here
Yes it was 87 octane. Its a new PURE station. Also had 87 octane with 10% Ethanol and 93 octane with 10% Ethanol. I looked it up yesterday on the internet and it seems the Obama tribe is trying to pass a 15% Ethanol gas. Hmmmmm........... Sure is a lot of politics involved, farmers, corn crops, etc. Seems the newer vehicles will be able to handle it but the older ones not so much.
Does not matter what engine builders to allow the use of ethonal in the engines
Simple fact you need more fuel to get same same power with ethonal
It also is harder on your engine and the engine will never last as long simple fact :
well, again failing miserably to avoid the political side of this issue:
"Obama" doesn't have a dog in this fight. Agricultural interests are trying to bamboozle the EPA into thinking more ethanol is a good thing. They are using the same fuzzy math that the oil interests use on the other side. Neither is speaking the plain truth.
It's a good thing we have dedicated, impartial news agencies to dig in to the details and help us sort this all out.
This month we were up in WI at the Iola Car Show, and a lot of the gas stations in that area have real gas! Gassed up on the way back to IL, and although it's only a 3 1/2 drive back, our gas milage did improve around 2 MPG. Or, we had one hell of a tail wind traveling back home! - AL
Hey Guys, Thanks for all the input I really appreciate it. I now know what I'm going to do this afternoon and that is to go down to the station and fill up with 100% gasoline. Thanks again. Paul Bernard
On our UT trip, we found real gas in Wyoming. It was the same price as 10% ethanol but lower octane. 10% was 87 and real gas was 85 octane. I didn't want to use anything as low as 85 but it probably would have been okay.
2 wks ago, I was in WI at the Iols car show, near Stevent's Point. There were 10-12 stations in the general area who had 100% gas. People were handing the list of stations out at the hotel we were staying at!
Paid cash, so I don't have receipts, but was cheaper than the 10% crap back home!
That site is useless- the info is provided by the customers and is totally unreliable. Most people don't even know what they're buying. Seems that they think ethanol free means the gas has free ethanol in it!!! Called several stations listed in my area and none of them had ethanol free gas. Some have it in premium only.
Up here maybe half the stations if luckey have 10% ethanol mix, remainder is real Gasoline. Only one outfit has 93 and its got 10% in it, hence why I run a 91 custom tune in my Hemi Magnum as I decided no corn if I can help it and given the altitude its enough octane to do the job. So the E85 Ethanol Badge on the Jeep is cool enough to have the do gooders think I am improving my footprint and if I drive down to the USA i'll be good to fuel up anywhere. My Jeep runs just fine on the 87 Gas.
Hi All, when I first bought my current ride, I would use E95 Octane (which included 10% ethanol), and was approx. A$0.02/litre less than 91 Octane pure gas. I then tried 95 Octane of pure gas, which costs approx. A$0.10/litre more than 91 Octane pure gas. Using the latter, I found my fuel consumption dropped by 1 litre per 100km, and the car drove smoother and more responsive. Overall, it ran better on 95 Octane Pure gas.
I ran 91 octane non-ethanol exclusively in my 2010 Wrangler Unlimited. Expect an improvement in fuel mileage of 7-10% depending on your driving style and conditions.
NASCAR doesn't talk about it any more, but when the Cup cars first started running the ethanol blended fuel, the number I generally heard was a 10% reduction in fuel mileage.
Think about this: Consider the amount of Federal and State Tax on a gallon of fuel. If your mileage is 10% less because you're using their "favored" fuel, you have to purchase an equivalent additional amount...which provides them additional taxes.
CDAutrey....That is a very good observation. Marinas are not the only area's where Ethanol free is sold. I live in a very large agricultural area no lakes or water ways in northern Virginia. NO BIG CITIES where the Govt. dictates what needs to be sold. Towns around here have a population of 2000 at best and much smaller. Many small towns, huge Agricultural farms, cattle, etc. I can think of at least 5-6 filling stations in a radius of 15-20 miles from my house that sell NO ETHANOL Gas. So I feel fortunate I can buy it for my 2013 JGC Ltd. The gas is all 87 octane and runs approx. .15 cents/gal. more.The 3.6 pentastar Idle's much better and seems to be very responsive passing on the super Hwy. Do I understand the Govt. wants to increase it to 15% Ethanol?
Yeah, and they're idiots. Manufacturers such as BMW have clearly pointed out that if you have a fuel related problem, they'll sample/test your tank's fuel and if you've exceeded 10% ethanol, you're not covered under warranty.My mother's X5 had that problem and they found 14% in her fuel. She always filled at different stations, so it was near impossible to determine which station was at fault. She was out almost $1600 to fix everything.
I just wish the stupid govt would stop trying to "fix" problems that don't exist, just to "help" out others.
Manufacturers have had the E85 vehicles out for several years now. Understand they have special rubber seals in the injectors and elsewhere to handle the corrosive properties of the higher percentage ethanol fuels.
I've talked to many, many people who've had problems with motorcycles, lawn mowers, weed eaters and the like from using 10% ethanol fuel. www.pure-gas.org details all the stations in the US and Canada selling "real" gasoline.
Older article but simple and straight to the point. Plus there's still lots of cars on the road that aren't designed to handle the Ethanol, even at 10% over time. Not worth the hassle and it drove up the cost of food and other things.
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