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Please help 05 5.7 grand cherokee limited

Hey all, I appreciate any and all advice and suggestions.
First things first. My description of the problem.
While driving and what seems to be at random I hear some clanking which I seem to think sounds like the caliper is moving or getting stuck while driving. Like I said sometimes it does it sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it is while I'm breaking sometimes it is while I'm accelerating. And yes sometimes it just does it when I'm driving along. Through other forums I have learned some things. I checked the bushing all seem to be fine. I also ruled out bushings because the noise is sometimes a constant clanking clunking like something is getting caught. I replaced the drivers side caliper thinking I had a seized piston with the dual caliper. No luck still does it and through driving locally only cause something is wrong it seems to be doing it more. My rotors seem to have a line at the top about an inch to the top that seems to be wore down more than the rest of the rotor. I took the caliper I bought off tonight and I see a few gashes around the piston ring that pushes against the outside of the brake pad on the inside. I'm lost guys not sure what to do n I need to finish so I can drive 14 hours to see my daughter for Christmas.

Tonight when I took off the caliper brake pads etc to take the rotor off because I was thinking it's the brake pads or rotor causing it I noticed something. With everything off except rotor an do ring that holds rotor on i began with two hands spinning rotor forward then reverse. Is there suppose to be play when doing that. The drivers side is off the ground and passenger tire is on the ground. I am only able to move it a little bit but it seems that the shaft which I believe is the differential that moves with the rotor is the problem. When I roll it forward n back with both hands on the rotor is has play and there is not like a clunk but when it goes back and forth to each point when it stops about an inch there is a noise. If this is normal then it's just fine but I'm not sure. Would that be the differential ? With it being only the drivers side sounding like metal on metal and not under the car would you suggest cutting rotor n new brake pads? Or something else if u need more info or maybe if I could send you a video of the noise while driving. I just need to get this fixed cheap n myself so I can get home for Xmas. Please message me or text me 4102518280 I really need help. N don't have the money to take it in. I have all the tools to do it myself just don't want to get rotors cut n new brake pads if it is something else.

Sorry it's confusing


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Also it seems that if I pull over put in reverse and back up then get going again it temporarily fixes it but down the road or turns later it'll do it agian
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Re: Please help 05 5.7 grand cherokee limited

Its quite normal that there is some play on the gears in the differential, so no worry about that.
Then the clunking, did you check the drive shaft couplings for play?
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Are you talking bout the rubber boots that angle up into center of the truck I held them n spinned the rotor n didn't feel ne play
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Ok just went out n checked no play in that. Could it possibly be the bearing inside where the three bolts hold the spindle hub on. There is also a huge nut in the center any idea what size that would be so I can get that off n check the bearing
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Re: Please help 05 5.7 grand cherokee limited

I was more thinking at the joints in the propeller shaft, the one which goes from the T-case to the front differential. Could eventually be the drive shaft CV joint (the one inside the rubber boot), but you said you checked that already.
Wheel bearing normally doesn´t make a clunking sound when going bad, but more a whining noise.
Since you changed the brake caliper, you did check the caliper mounting bracket to be fixed properly and no play on the caliper sliding pins?
When you turn the wheel by hand, do you hear/feel anything strange?
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I currently have both front tires off. The reason I replaced the caliper was because the top piston seem to be rated seized and freed up ith my piston tool. Was ok for a bit hen started again. I got a refurbished caliper and it is doing the same thing again. When I took the caliper off I noticed the pistons were uneven again. Also on the outside of the rotor like I said is about a once inch space from the top that looks like it has wore down lower than the rest of the rotor. I am wondering if this could be why I am getting a grinding chatter at random. My plan is to get rotor cut today n new brake pads n hopefully that'll fix the problem if not I'll be taking this caliper back to advanced for a replace,ment. From what you said I don't think it is a bearing either. I want to ask around or look into more what your talking about with the differential. Like I said I gripped the shaft ....lol that comes out behind the rotor hub and angles up and spun opposite directions with no play what so ever. I no have both fronts off ground so I can compare feel n look on all parts. Thank you for your continued response I check in hourly cause well it's damn cold. I have a 84 720 Datsun I am also rebuilding so this hickup with my oh so wonder he I is not making me happy.
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Re: Please help 05 5.7 grand cherokee limited

Did you check the joints on the shaft between T case and differential?
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ALRIGHT !!!!! So here is the low down!
I took the Caliper back and got a replacement. Thank you AutoZone.
I brought the caliper home and reconnected to the break line. I also got new break pads for the front. I then dropped the LF rotor off at Napa to get cut. Went back home and began to clean with fine sandpaper the two holes that are on the caliper bracket because I was unable to move the slide bolts. Cleaning the old grease out and sanding the crud inside. I took the new slide bolt or pins from the new caliper and greased them with the recommended grease. Ewwww they slide so nice..... I got a phone call from Napa about an hour later and went to pick up the cut rotor for the LF. Once home my pops called and said it would be smart to get the RF cut too seeing as I got both fronts when you purchase brake pads. So I took the rotor off the right side and took it to napa. Came home and started to work on my Datsun 720 until the other rotor was done. About an hour later headed back to Napa. Came home and began. I now had front rotors cut new brake pads and a new DS caliper. Once my step dad got home from Baltimore I began re assembly. He knows a lot and I've learned everything from him so my advice always have someone with you when working on a car cause no matter what it is that second idea or thought might save you time and money. Assembled driver side first. Then passenger. By nightfall the tires were going back on and we began to bleed the brakes keeping the res full. Leaving for a test drive I seriously was really upset because to my disappointment the noise clanking clunking grinding still continued. We drove about 25 minutes and like I said before at random we continued to hear the same stuff I have heard before. While in walmart I was just unhappy. Pops got what he needed and tried to talk about other things but our convo kept going well if it was a bearing we would always hear it. If it was a bushing we would hear it when the shocks compress etc........ Going through the wtf could it be. We had hooked up our computer to the car a couple days before and there was a code for the abs system. So sitting in the parking lot we glanced through the manual to see if we could pull the abs fuse to disengage it. To see if the problem continued. I reset timer trip miles and such while he read from owners manual. I needed gas so I started my black beauty up and headed to wawa for coffee n gas. No noise. I read in a forum to disconnect the battery for ten seconds to reset but couldn't get battery to disconnect cause I had no tools with me. Again still thinking my at random problem was still there. Keep in mind after I started from Walmart no noise was heard. So we left wawa and went for a drive. Another hour and fifteen minutes later a rough n I mean rough road. Heavy braking and pedal to the floor and no more noise. Got home and hooked computer up. No more abs code. So basically because someone before had done a shit brake job and the brake pads had a chunk of metal in them that ground down the top of my rotor and cause everything to be uneven and messed up the abs sensor was having a fit and chattering the shit out of my truck. So cut rotor new pads and clean and sanded slide caliper pins with some grease fixed the problem... I hope. Letting the brakes cool down and in about a 30 min going for another drive to double check problem is fixed. Ugh I can't tell you how stressful this has been. Thank you for the advice. I am going to look and see from now on also if videos and photos can be uploaded to forums. You gotta live and learn and everything is an experience. Thank you again anyone has a similar questions let me know I thuroughly inspected bushing and everything else and thankfully my prediction from only what I could hear was correct. It was something with the DS brakes and what i did fixed it. I guess the truck needed time to reset itself I'm thinking the drive to Walmart was still reading what the old pads and uneven rotor were doing. Once I shut the jeep off and went into Wally World for about ten minutes and restarted the truck have not had a problem since. My next post will be good to go or..... Damn.... Happy holidays!
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Re: Please help 05 5.7 grand cherokee limited

Ok if anyone is still following this post I am in dire need of help. Please I am trying to get home for Christmas to be with my daughter! It is a fifteen hour drive.I leave this Saturday 3am

I know I know ohhh he said it was fixed lol well it isn't....

Here is what has been replaced.
Rotors cut
calipers
brake pads
front rear differential mount bracket.
all on the front!!

When jacked up on stands on all 4.
checked u joint driveshaft all seems to be fine.

BUT CLANKING CLICKING CLUNKING STILL AT RANDOM EXIST

here is what I have found as of today.

when driving with foot on accelerator no noise!
when I lift my foot off the accelerator the noise comes....
it is at random so this is why I am baffled
sometimes when I turn there is clicking! sometimes not

sometimes when braking there is clunking, it is extra severe when below 40 mph but sometimes it doesn't do it!.

Would you think it is......wondering if retaining clip that holds balls in cv joint is broken.. saw picture online of exploded view of cv joint where from the outside the cv joint looked good but they showed the round bracket that holds the bearings/balls in place ripped to shreds once apart

HELP!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!
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Re: Please help 05 5.7 grand cherokee limited

Ok if anyone is still following this post I am in dire need of help. Please I am trying to get home for Christmas to be with my daughter! It is a fifteen hour drive.I leave this Saturday 3am

I know I know ohhh he said it was fixed lol well it isn't....

Here is what has been replaced.
Rotors cut
calipers
brake pads
front rear differential mount bracket.
all on the front!!

When jacked up on stands on all 4.
checked u joint driveshaft all seems to be fine.

BUT CLANKING CLICKING CLUNKING STILL AT RANDOM EXIST

here is what I have found as of today.

when driving with foot on accelerator no noise!
when I lift my foot off the accelerator the noise comes....
it is at random so this is why I am baffled
sometimes when I turn there is clicking! sometimes not

sometimes when braking there is clunking, it is extra severe when below 40 mph but sometimes it doesn't do it!.

Would you think it is......wondering if retaining clip that holds balls in cv joint is broken.. saw picture online of exploded view of cv joint where from the outside the cv joint looked good but they showed the round bracket that holds the bearings/balls in place ripped to shreds once apart

HELP!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!
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Did you check the driveshafts. I have read about a problem with the WK driveshafts. The u-joints are integrated in the driveshafts ( one piece design). Do if they bind that could be a problem, then you need to replace the entire driveshaft. Get them checked out, that sounds like what I have read. Google vibration in drive train, and you should find what I read.
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