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Re: 3ltr CRD oil type

Hi Guy's,
I am new to this site and can't find the answer to my question (I might have missed it).
Does the 2008 Jeep GC 3.0 CDR have an oil sump drain plug or do I have to evacuate the oil through the dipstick?

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Re: 3ltr CRD oil type

You can do either. The drain splashes off the belly pan and looks like a real mess. I have always done evacuation oil changes. MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THE CORRECT OIL CHANGE AND OIL LEVEL CHECKING PROCEDURES BEFORE BEGINNING!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 05-19-2010, 08:57 PM
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Re: 3ltr CRD oil type

Thanks for the quick reply Dawg.
I picked up a Mityvac evacuator and used it to get the oil out.
I am very happy not having to crawl on the ground. Changed the filter also. The unit worked great.
I am sending a sample of my old oil in for testing as I don't trust the dealer who I bought the jeep GC from. They told me they did an oil change. Not sure about this CRD yet but I checked the oil after driving home from the dealer and it was very very black.

I had trouble finding oil locally that had the MB 229.51 spec.
Found some German made stuff from NAPA ( Lubro Moly 5w-30) but the cost was $70 for 5 liters (2 jugs for $140, ouch). I was desperate to get that uknown oil out so I bit the bullet. I will post the results from the scan if anyone is interested. Also the threads on the oil level checking were very helpful.

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Re: 3ltr CRD oil type

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Thanks for the quick reply Dawg.
I picked up a Mityvac evacuator and used it to get the oil out.
I am very happy not having to crawl on the ground. Changed the filter also. The unit worked great.
I am sending a sample of my old oil in for testing as I don't trust the dealer who I bought the jeep GC from. They told me they did an oil change. Not sure about this CRD yet but I checked the oil after driving home from the dealer and it was very very black.

I had trouble finding oil locally that had the MB 229.51 spec.
Found some German made stuff from NAPA ( Lubro Moly 5w-30) but the cost was $70 for 5 liters (2 jugs for $140, ouch). I was desperate to get that uknown oil out so I bit the bullet. I will post the results from the scan if anyone is interested. Also the threads on the oil level checking were very helpful.

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you can go to the local Mercedes dealer and you can buy Mobil 1 5W40 ESL by the case from them if you wish. Of course they say it is the only one specifically manufactured for their 3.0L CRD.... but obviously there are many iothers uder the umbrellas of MB 229.31 and MB 229.51
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Re: 3ltr CRD oil type

So isnt there a Valvoline that one can pick up at the local Autozone or Pepboys dealer ??
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So isnt there a Valvoline that one can pick up at the local Autozone or Pepboys dealer ??
google the specs as listed and see, I don't remember
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Re: 3ltr CRD oil type

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Thanks for the quick reply Dawg.
I picked up a Mityvac evacuator and used it to get the oil out.
I am very happy not having to crawl on the ground. Changed the filter also. The unit worked great.
I am sending a sample of my old oil in for testing as I don't trust the dealer who I bought the jeep GC from. They told me they did an oil change. Not sure about this CRD yet but I checked the oil after driving home from the dealer and it was very very black.

I had trouble finding oil locally that had the MB 229.51 spec.
Found some German made stuff from NAPA ( Lubro Moly 5w-30) but the cost was $70 for 5 liters (2 jugs for $140, ouch). I was desperate to get that uknown oil out so I bit the bullet. I will post the results from the scan if anyone is interested. Also the threads on the oil level checking were very helpful.

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Amsoil's Canadian wholesale price on our AFL oil which is MB229.51 oil is less than $80 for a twin pack of 5 Liter jugs. I have a Canadian dealer that I work with closely if you are interested, I know he can get you a wholesale acct. & we have a warehouse in the Toronto area (Mississauga) & you could pick it up there to save on any shipping charges.
His website is www.canadasynthetics.ca , the guy you wanna talk to is Bannon. He is a Jeep guy as well. Hope this helps.
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Re: 3ltr CRD oil type

I use the Amsoil 5W-40 European Formula in my CRD. I wouldn't worry about using 5W-40 vs 5W-30 since Benz now specifies only 5W-40 for the exact same engine. And who are you going to trust, Benz who actually made the engine or Chrysler who is no longer even a partner with Daimler... Keep in mind the Amsoil oil is "recommended" for 229.51 applications and not certified. The explanation that seems to make the most sense is if they certify it they can no longer change the product blend whereas if they don't certify it they can continue to update/improved the blend, so that works for me.
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Re: 3ltr CRD oil type

Hi, I have been down this road before with my Jeep Cherokee CRD 3ltr WH. Great car by the way and outstanding for towing. As for type of oil, this is what the book says. Use API Certified SAE 5W-30 Synthetic Engine Oil, meeting the requirements of DaimlerChrysler Material Standard MS-11106 or Mercedes Benz MB 229.51 and ACEA C3 qualified engine oils
Guys- I called Castrol and they got the head man in chage of oils technology to call me back. He rang twice (couldnt believe it) and then he sent me a follow up email. Here it is

The Jeep 2008 Grand Cherokee has a Diesel Particulate Filter in the Exhaust. (Tynan)

Thank you for your email enquiry.

A suitable oil selection for the engine compartment of this model is the
current product known as
Castrol 'Edge Sport 0W40'
. This would be a
recommended product whether or not your particular vehicle is fitted
with a Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF).

Suitable viscosity grades in Australia for this vehicle typically quote
SAE 10W40, 5W40 and 0W40. An SAE 5W30 viscosity grade would also be
acceptable if the vehicle was fitted with a DPF as long as the oil also
met a specification called MB 229.31 (or the later MB 229.51).

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Now, the WH does have a DPF so this is the oil. Changing the oil and filter is easy and you can buy the oil and filter off the shelf.

So, if your Jeep Cherokee Grand CRD is not running smooth and IF you have a DPF, you may have caused an issue there. When discussing this matter with the head mechanic at the local Jeep outlet, he maintains that the onboard computer will clear this when and after you use the right oil. (??) If you read the fine print on the oil container, it does mention in all cases the DPF device and the need to use the correct oil.
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Re: 3ltr CRD oil type

I use 0-40W Duron-E

Pricey, but i can buy in bulk so it makes up for it.
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Re: 3ltr CRD oil type

I cannot imagine the big fuss about oil??????

It's not the oil that kills the dpf, it's the EGR, quality of diesel fuel is much more important

Have a look at the sticker and buy that one from a premium brand. Chances are they are from the same factory with different labels & different marketing & prices.

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A couple off years ago my 04 cayenne turbo (wich was the worst car I ever had but also theone off the nicest) had the ignition coil issue (wich is known on all 8 cilinders) As there was also alot off other electronic issues all the time & because I hate stealerships and their bs stories, I ordered a Durametric, A diagnostic tool then can log, erase, reset codes & do all the nice stuff they can do at the dealer. With this tool I could see wich coil was the bad one when they would fail. (I always had my laptop, new coil & tools with me in 125.000 euro car)
First time when it happened, I ordered a coil, wich is a beru one, here from a local carparts shop. 72 Euros, 2 weeks later when another one failed I ordered one from porsche 52 Euros, same coil, same box...
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Re: 3ltr CRD oil type

The engine oil need to fulfill Chrysler Material Standard MS-11106 or Mercedes Benz MB 229.51 and ACEA C3.
Here in Europe it's also a bit tricky sometimes ,but you need to use 5w30 or 5w40 synthetic oil ..10w40 is semi synthetic ans is not recommended ...
The difference between 5w40 and 5w30 is viscosity (hot or cold I don't remember) but it's not a huge difference between the 2.
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