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Old 01-20-2012, 12:04 PM
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maybe so....but I dont see how...unless thats the best touchless car wash in the world....LOL.
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Old 01-20-2012, 12:09 PM
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Re: Detailing Question

^Yeah seriously. lol

You have swirls. You're not seeing them. lol


And to the OP, add another 100-200 or so bucks, you can buy yourself a Porter Cable and all the materials needed to do a full detail yourself that's much better and the materials you buy can last you a while and the PC will last you a lifetime. Don't let these shops rip you off.
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Old 01-20-2012, 04:04 PM
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Re: Detailing Question

Scott is 100% right, doing that is just rubbing the remaining dirt all over your paint.

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And to the OP, add another 100-200 or so bucks, you can buy yourself a Porter Cable and all the materials needed to do a full detail yourself that's much better and the materials you buy can last you a while and the PC will last you a lifetime. Don't let these shops rip you off.
I wouldn't buy a PC nowadays. I just bought a Flex orbital to replace my PC, and talk about a huge difference. Lots of better options than the PC today.

HOWEVER, being a good detailer is more than just having some products and tools, you have to know how to use them. Just anybody can't restore a tired car to like new condition with a PC, you have to have the knowledge, experience, skill AND the many hundreds of dollars worth of tools or products...THEN you have to have the desire and free time to devote the 5+ hours needed for a quality job. Its not for everybody.

Just because someone else charges for their excellent work doesn't mean that they are "ripping people off". I could do a lot of things that I pay other people to do...because they do them better than me and I don't want to be bothered to do them. The detailer he linked to does a great job, I've seen his work, and he deserves to be paid for that work.

I mean...I have a vacuum cleaner and a can of scrubbing bubbles but I still pay a maid service to clean my house...because I'd rather have fun when I'm not working than scrub my toilets. Should I tell the service I pay $150 to that they are ripping me off because I could buy a Dyson vacuum for a couple hundred dollars more and clean it myself? No...that would be absurd.
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Old 01-20-2012, 04:12 PM
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Re: Detailing Question

How do you wash and dry and avoid swirls then?

Also, what about using spray detailer and a microfiber cloth on a vehicle; you're saying you'll get scratches there too?

I only dry in a vertical manner and put little pressure on the vehicle and only using a damp plush microfiber new cloth.

How do you dry your Jeeps?

I looked again at the hood using an LED flashlight and I can only see slight vertical parrallel marks on the clear bra but it ends at the paint on the hood where the clear bra ends.
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Old 01-20-2012, 04:17 PM
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How do you wash and dry and avoid swirls then?

Also, what about using spray detailer and a microfiber cloth on a vehicle; you're saying you'll get scratches there too?

I only dry in a vertical manner and put little pressure on the vehicle.
Its all about having something that lubricates the paint and lets you wipe away the dirt particles without dragging them across the paint. If you use a spray detailer and a GOOD QUALITY microfiber towel...you won't scratch the paint provided theres no serious dirt on the vehicle.

The issue is rubbing the remaining road film off the paint with no detergent agent on it. There are products you can use that will allow you to accomplish what you're doing safely. Optimum No Rinse...Optimum Opti-Clean come to mind.

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I looked again at the hood using an LED flashlight and I can only see slight vertical parrallel marks on the clear bra but it ends at the paint on the hood where the clear bra ends.
The LED light really won't show you the swirls, you need to look at it with a powerful halogen or discharge light.

Its also a cumulative thing. You might be okay this time, but you do that over and over again for a year, the paint will look awful I promise you. Not to mention the touchless wash is full of detergents that strip all the wax off the paint too.
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Re: Detailing Question

OK. Thanks for the advice.

I'm using these microfiber cloths: http://www.chemicalguys.com/Microfib...mic_501_03.htm
and this spray detailer: http://ppcbest.com/catalog/popup_ima...q940okeakedfp2
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Both good quality products...
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Both good quality products...
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Re: Detailing Question

On my XK, I have used the touchless car washes at least every week since late 2006. I follow it up with a wipedown using microfiber clothes from Pepboys and Maguirers Quik Detailer. I have no visible swirls in the paint and the paint still looks like new aside from some minor stone chips from interstate road debris.
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On my XK, I have used the touchless car washes at least every week since late 2006. I follow it up with a wipedown using microfiber clothes from Pepboys and Maguirers Quik Detailer. I have no visible swirls in the paint and the paint still looks like new aside from some minor stone chips from interstate road debris.
Thats because of the quik detailer. If you had just wiped the paint down it would be a different story. Even so though, I bet if you looked at your paint under bright halogen light it would be a different story.
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Thats because of the quik detailer. If you had just wiped the paint down it would be a different story. Even so though, I bet if you looked at your paint under bright halogen light it would be a different story.
So how do you wash and dry your vehicle(s)? What do you use to get ALL dirt off and the vehicle dry with no swirls or scratches and without spotting or streaks?
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Re: Detailing Question

[QUOTE=rustyosaurus;555925]Hi there. I am going to get my new JGC detailed. This is something I plan to do on my own, but not when it's 30 degrees outside. Seems like a good idea to have this done initially and before the ugliness of winter sets in.

Can you get new paint detailed as soon as you pickup or is there a length of time to wait for the new paint to cure?
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