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Old 01-08-2014, 12:00 PM
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Palour trick

I see these write ups on detail forums all the time, and wonder what people actually see in these pictures besides of a car that looks like crap, and after many hours of work it took to repair it. Here is an example of exactly what I mean:

This M5 came in for a full correction and coating after the dealer had "detailed" it for the owner. At first glance it didn't look too bad, which you'd expect with only 6,000 miles on the clock, but after stripping off the dealer's wax, some pretty severe paint defects were found.

This is a common write up for correction detailers to post:

2013 BMW M5 Restoration Detail - 45hrs - Immaculate Reflections - Click & Brag - Autopia

What is extremely strange here is that this detailer cannot put two and two together, and figure out that why would a new car with 6,000 miles have severe paint defects in the first place.Also, why did the defects appear after removing the wax? This logic just defies common sense IMO.If the dumb ass dealership had not hired a hack detailer to do this quality of work than this problem would not have required 45 hours to fix it.

The Opti Coat was a good choice for a final coat, but I am pretty sure that was the owners choice, and not the detailers. Here is my point, this is a brand new car with less than 6,000 miles, and you will notice in a pic where the detailer is using a paint thickness gauge. I wonder why that is?????? You will also notice that the detailer needed help of another person to get it done in 45 hours, and I am sure the bill was not cheap either.
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Re: Palour trick

It also looks like a lot of car wash scratches. Most people who pay to have their car detailed, still don't take the time to properly wash and maintain it in between...blows my mind why you wouldn't want to be extremely anal with a 100k car. Dealer never touches my car, I don't care if it just came off the truck or was sitting on the lot, I drive it home dirty, I actually was going to tear up paper work because they said they couldn't deliver my Acura without "detailing" it, I said take off the white shipping paper, check for defects, and leave the plastic on the inside I'll get or you can keep it...they saw it my way. I actually saw a "kid" at the Acura dealership wiping down the windows and paint with brown paper towel after they ran it through the car wash, he was probably making $7/hr, what does he care. My local BMW dealer guy does ok work that I've seen on black, but I still had to "fix" it for my friend, and they pay that guy like $55k/year, wasn't terrible, but still had to polish a car with 148 miles on it. I do know some high end cars...Ferrari/Lambo/Bentley come with holograms all in the paint when they get off the boat, and look horrible. I enjoy taking my new car home and spending time making it they way I want, with the products I want, i.e. not smearing the same stuff for the tires all over the dash and leather seats as I've seen done.
Big thing too, people don't know the difference between polishing a car and waxing...I hear guys at work say they "polished" up their truck over the weekend. I ask them, so you taped your trim after you washed and clayed the paint, got out the machine and went to work? They say, uh no, got some Turtle Wax out and smeared some on after they washed it.
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It also looks like a lot of car wash scratches. Most people who pay to have their car detailed, still don't take the time to properly wash and maintain it in between...blows my mind why you wouldn't want to be extremely anal with a 100k car. Dealer never touches my car, I don't care if it just came off the truck or was sitting on the lot, I drive it home dirty, I actually was going to tear up paper work because they said they couldn't deliver my Acura without "detailing" it, I said take off the white shipping paper, check for defects, and leave the plastic on the inside I'll get or you can keep it...they saw it my way. I actually saw a "kid" at the Acura dealership wiping down the windows and paint with brown paper towel after they ran it through the car wash, he was probably making $7/hr, what does he care. My local BMW dealer guy does ok work that I've seen on black, but I still had to "fix" it for my friend, and they pay that guy like $55k/year, wasn't terrible, but still had to polish a car with 148 miles on it. I do know some high end cars...Ferrari/Lambo/Bentley come with holograms all in the paint when they get off the boat, and look horrible. I enjoy taking my new car home and spending time making it they way I want, with the products I want, i.e. not smearing the same stuff for the tires all over the dash and leather seats as I've seen done.
Big thing too, people don't know the difference between polishing a car and waxing...I hear guys at work say they "polished" up their truck over the weekend. I ask them, so you taped your trim after you washed and clayed the paint, got out the machine and went to work? They say, uh no, got some Turtle Wax out and smeared some on after they washed it.
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Really cannot disagree with much that you say here, but IMO there is really no difference between waxing and polishing. Considering wax offers no real protection, but only more shine than what is the real difference between the two?
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To an extent yes, wax doesn't offer REAL protection, makes it shiny, and water beads up, polish makes it shiny but not really bead. True protection comes from a coating, 22PLE, Opti coat, Gtechniq...I have gtechniq exo v2 on my charger, our new jeep has a combo of gtechniq C2V3 and Esoteric signature series wax(sealer/wax hybrid that leaves awesome shine, depth, clarity and lasted all ohio winter on last years jeep) until weather breaks and I'll be doing gtechniq C1 topped with exo v2. I dropped a plastic gun case on my charger the other day working in the garage, should've known better to move it, and it didn't scratch one bit, and luckily hit in a spot it's just a tiny little wave in the paint you can't really see the dent. I think if I just had wax, it would've had a bad scuff mark...I dropped it from the 12ft high opening for overhead storage
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